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Title: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Abominator on 2 December 2007, 18:08:48 This topic exists in the hope that newcomers to MMM will not clog the forum with one-question topics, and topics that have already been raised several times.
Basically, it exists to solve simple pleas, so if you're looking for help in a Zero Series game, or you have a simple question about this series, ask it here. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Jose Luis on 3 December 2007, 00:53:20 What happened to Zero at the end of Megaman Zero 4? Did he die or does something in Megaman ZX say differently?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 3 December 2007, 00:53:35 He died.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 3 December 2007, 00:54:25 ... It's Zero.
He ALWAYS dies. And then comes back. [spoiler]Hell, he even dies in ZXA.[/spoiler] Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Chron on 3 December 2007, 00:54:56 He died.You know, that's probably the only thing anyone has ever said about MMZ that made me smile. On the inside. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 3 December 2007, 00:55:55 I enjoyed the games, don't get me wrong, but at least I'm one of the few fans who can understand and appreciate why others hate it.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Chron on 3 December 2007, 00:57:02 They really aren't bad games.
But imo, they're not good enough to finish. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 3 December 2007, 00:58:05 I'll admit I forgot to buy MMZ4, and never cared to go back and find it.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Winged Warrior on 3 December 2007, 08:54:29 I played all four and enjoyed them.
Atleast they were not as bad as MMBN4 or 5 Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Chron on 3 December 2007, 13:58:00 Apples and oranges, Wing.
Apples and oranges. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 3 December 2007, 21:57:16 The Zero series was a huge pile of fail and you all bloody well know it.
Now ZX on the other hand is a huge pile of win. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 3 December 2007, 23:47:02 That's slightly an overstatement, but I know the point.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 3 December 2007, 23:48:35 I guess if you compare ZX to the games we were getting recently before it, I guess it is win.
But compared to the early X and the Classic series games, it's meh. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 4 December 2007, 00:16:20 ZX to me is on par with Classic and X.
We better get a ZX3. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 4 December 2007, 00:20:14 We never even got a #2.
We got an A. Next one's gonna be a ZXAD (Dynamo). Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 4 December 2007, 00:35:22 The D should stand for "Death" as in "Death of Megaman as we know it"
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Chron on 4 December 2007, 00:37:54 No, no, no.
Dynamo was a good one. But how about this. We call the next game "Dynamo". It's about how awesome Dynamo is. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 4 December 2007, 01:33:15 I would actually be strangely happy if every ZX sequel just added a letter to the previous game.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Chron on 4 December 2007, 01:55:03 ...
... you know, that is strangely uplifting to think about. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 4 December 2007, 02:52:51 I mean, I would be okay with that.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Johncarllos on 4 December 2007, 03:31:55 Again it brings me to that topic from last year, Megaman ZXA network 8 blue team soccer and chase etc....
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Panda on 10 December 2007, 11:33:55 I swear I was making a flash animation about that ZXA sequel... but got lazy and stopped.
I'll just wait for ZXAGBD. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 December 2007, 15:34:57 General Question - Why is this series so awful?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 18:27:17 General Question - Why is this series so awful? What's supposed to be awful about Rockman ZERO? I'd rather call Original Rockman awful. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 18:30:38 Well, it continued to rape the original plot, wiping out characters, ignoring major events. And just about everyone had a thong on. Another thing about it was the ability to roam around areas, instead of just picking a level and mashing the fire and jump buttons, apparently the roaming didn't really appeal to some people, IMO it wasn't all that good. Nowadays they're making a MM game for every genre, which is a bit annoying since the classic ways we're the best..
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 December 2007, 18:33:43 General Question - Why is this series so awful? You may leave this web site now. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 18:35:19 And just about everyone had a thong on. You guys really have wicked imagination. I didn't hear anyone complain about X and Zero from the X series although they also had something like that. Seriously, this whole "thong" deal is idiotic. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 18:38:04 It is idiotic, but that's because they literally have a thong on, the X series undies we're like briefs XD
But since there was a "special" art design for the Zero series, they decided to make everyone look half naked and clothed in spandex and weird apparel. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 10 December 2007, 18:51:40 What's supposed to be awful about Rockman ZERO? I'd rather call Original Rockman awful. Hey Rez, can we clone Nibbles? I don't think one flesh-eating rabbit is enough to satisfy my resentment. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 18:56:40 Hey Rez, can we clone Nibbles? I don't think one flesh-eating rabbit is enough to satisfy my resentment. In before flame wars... Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 10 December 2007, 19:02:38 So why does the Zero series suck hard you ask?
Allow us to fill you in. 1: Horrible change of design. 2: Unforgiving Difficulty 3: Crappy Convoluted Story Line 4: Cyber Elves 5: Ranking System was flawed 6: Idiotic Fanbase (Majority are lamers) 7: The fact that you aren't playing as a Mega Man. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 19:07:32 1: Horrible change of design. Afraid of a change of pace? I like both designs equally. 2: Unforgiving Difficulty I thought you people were always complaining about the games being too easy? 3: Crappy Convoluted Story Line Story makes more sense than that of Rockman X, if you actually are willing to put it all together. 4: Cyber Elves No one forces you to use them. 5: Ranking System was flawed Who cares about that anyway? 6: Idiotic Fanbase (Majority are lamers) Then you've apparently met the wrong people. 7: The fact that you aren't playing as a Mega Man. You couldn't play as Rock any more for years, yet the fanbases of the other series are equally large, if not larger. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 19:12:39 Probably because there were only 4 games in the series. You can actually understand the X series very well if you ignore the Zero series, they both majorly screwed up. But Zero continued the lie.3: Crappy Convoluted Story Line The rest of Xero's points are mainly based on gameplay, and since a lot of people don't like it, you can't really expect the welcome wagon to roll in for the Zero series. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 19:16:06 The rest of Xero's points are mainly based on gameplay, and since a lot of people don't like it, you can't really expect the welcome wagon to roll in for the Zero series. Well, I started my career with Rockman games with X one on the SNES, and I never touched an Original series game besides Rockman & Forte. My problem with that series is that the gameplay is simply too slow for me. I want my dash, my walljump etc. That's why I don't like Original Rockman, besides the lame characters. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 10 December 2007, 19:21:38 Mega Man X screwed up after X5, and that was due to the Zero series. I played both the X and Zero games and the X games are better.
And I don't complain a game being too easy unless it's something like Starforce or ZX's Easy mode. The rest of Xero's points are mainly based on gameplay, and since a lot of people don't like it, you can't really expect the welcome wagon to roll in for the Zero series. The better classic games are before his advancement on later consoles. Personally, I don't like it when random people diss the classic series saying it sucks because Proto Man can't double jump or Mega Man can't climb walls. I'm not saying you're one of those people to be exact, but I'm just ranting. The classic series retains a good formula that tends not to get spoiled. It's hard to go wrong making a classic Mega Man game. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 19:21:45 Well, I started my career with Rockman games with X one on the SNES, and I never touched an Original series game besides Rockman & Forte. My problem with that series is that the gameplay is simply too slow for me. I want my dash, my walljump etc. That's why I don't like Original Rockman, besides the lame characters.>_> You know a lot of people can argue with you that the original is awesome because of the speed, because of the "lame" characters, and because it doesn't have all the special upgrade hooplah. Also, are you saying you still haven't touched the original series? Because that's honestly something to get hit by a truck filled with phail for. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 December 2007, 19:26:10 DANCE PUPPETS, DANCE!
... no, but seriously, no one complained about X and Zero in the X series because they still looked pretty much like Classic series in terms of asthetics and design. Mega Man Zero took those established characters, made them look like 10 year olds in thongs and spandex and gave them big boots and vests. I'll also just point out, Zero playes better in X4 than he does in ANY MMZ game. Aside from that, almost everything in MMZ on the most basic gameplay and stage design standpoint was nerfed and inferrior to any classic and X game through X4. Not to mention the flip side of story and continuity, which MMZ cemented as being pure fetid garbage. Classic is perfectly cohesive. X makes perfect sense through X4. MMZ itself has more rewrites in it's 4 games than X does in 8 games (and even then it's going back to try to fit in with MMZ that causes 95% of X's problems). Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 19:28:36 The better classic games are before his advancement on later consoles. Personally, I don't like it when random people diss the classic series saying it sucks because Proto Man can't double jump or Mega Man can't climb walls. I'm not saying you're one of those people to be exact, but I'm just ranting. The classic series retains a good formula that tends not to get spoiled. It's hard to go wrong making a classic Mega Man game. You know a lot of people can argue with you that the original is awesome because of the speed, because of the "lame" characters, and because it doesn't have all the special upgrade hooplah. Also, are you saying you still haven't touched the original series? Because that's honestly something to get hit by a truck filled with phail for. Let me refine my earlier statement: In fact, I did play other Original Rockman games aside Rockman & Forte, mainly the World series (the ones on Game Boy), but Rockman & Forte was the only one I really played long enough. Also, I'm not dissing the series, I just don't say I don't like it and I'd prefer Rockman ZERO over it. If I was dissing it, I would say it's the greatest ##### CAPCOM ever made or whatever, but that's not what I'm doing. All I'm saying is that I don't like and that I don't understand why people don't like ZERO series. Then again, our standpoints are more or less the same. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Kamon on 10 December 2007, 19:41:18 One of my many problems with the Zero series is that it kills off X.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 19:43:38 One of my many problems with the Zero series is that it kills off X. You do realize he's still alive in Rockman ZX, don't you? X, Zero and the Big Four may have lost their original, physical bodies, but their souls still reside within the Live Metals. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Kamon on 10 December 2007, 19:46:59 I'd hardly call that being alive. Yes they can float around and talk, but they're not capable of much more than that going on ZX.
Sorta strange how Biometals were created for X, Zero and Phantom when nothing remained of them to even analyse. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 19:51:14 Sorta strange how Biometals were created for X, Zero and Phantom when nothing remained of them to even analyse. With access to Cyberspace and the help of other Cyberelves, I don't think it was that hard for Ciel to locate their soul data and get them out of there, I think the bigger problem was the time as they would become non-sentient/dead data over time if they stayed too long in Cyberspace. The question is rather how she turned them into Live Metals, but that's probably related to her studies on Model V. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Kamon on 10 December 2007, 19:55:19 X said that without a body he couldn't exist for long. By the time Zero 4 rolls around, he seems to have completely vanished.
The only known access to 'cyberspace' was created due to Omega's presence on Earth, and those points were sealed upon his destruction. The whole Cyber Elf is their soul thing is fulls of holes as well! Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 December 2007, 20:04:50 The Gameboy games and Mega Man and Bass are NOT the best games to judge classic by. The console Mega Man games really make the Game Boy games look... bad.
Also, after the X series, everyone is dead. "Cyber Elf" versions or "Model" versions of characters are less than living. As was said, for all intents and purposes they are dead. They only server to remind you you're playing inferrior versions of THEIR games. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 20:14:11 X said that without a body he couldn't exist for long. By the time Zero 4 rolls around, he seems to have completely vanished. At the end of ZERO3, X hadn't enough energy to maintain his appearance in the Substance World. He had to go back to Cyberspace and stay there. The only known access to 'cyberspace' was created due to Omega's presence on Earth, and those points were sealed upon his destruction. That may be true, but Cyberelves can freely travel between the two worlds. Thus, they could have assisted Ciel in gathering the souls of X and the others. Also, after the X series, everyone is dead. "Cyber Elf" versions or "Model" versions of characters are less than living. As was said, for all intents and purposes they are dead. They only server to remind you you're playing inferrior versions of THEIR games. You have a very negative look on the later series, don't you? Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Kamon on 10 December 2007, 20:15:27 Why should he have a positive look on games that screw up a good series' overall plot?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 20:17:03 Why should he have a positive look on games that screw up a good series' overall plot? >___>; This isn't going anywhere... Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 20:20:12 I'm afraid you'll have no effect when trying to convince everyone that the Zero series is good.
Besides, it's not really an amazing series compared to the first two, but then again, it's just an opinion. You can have yours Ben, but don't get it near these guys :P Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 20:23:00 You can have yours Ben, but don't get it near these guys :P *shrugs* Well, I guess it could be worse. At least it's not the same caliber as that Thetis topic on Capcom BBS. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 20:25:28 *shrugs* Well, I guess it could be worse. At least it's not the same caliber as that Thetis topic on Capcom BBS.*shudders* : ( Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 December 2007, 20:26:33 This isn't going anywhere... :: golf claps :: As long as we all understand each other. *shrugs* Well, I guess it could be worse. At least it's not the same caliber as that Thetis topic on Capcom BBS. Enlighten Rez. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 20:29:08 Enlighten Rez. Enter at your own risk (http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?t=14990). It's full of idiocy, and this isn't the only topic where Scuttlest was pulling this crap. Seriously, he gave me a couple of headaches with this. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 20:31:22 A silly douchebag by the name of Scuttlest (BN related name, you already know it's bad) denied the fact that Thetis was a male. Even after they confirmed it on the official site, and the Japanese version of the game. And even after he got the game, it clearly said he was a male, he denied this, saying "It was a typo" or "It doesn't say that UR LYING". We all tried, and failed.
Then a couple weeks later he admitted he was a male, and eventually blamed everyone else for forcing him into a corner. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 December 2007, 20:33:42 We may hate here at MMM, but we're not STUPID.
And I seemed to have hijacked this thread enough for one day... :: waves hand :: BACK ON TOPIC Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Vinchenz Rock on 10 December 2007, 20:56:11 Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 21:21:56 OUT OF MY MMM YOU WEEABOO Like hell I'm going to change my habits of using the Japanese terminology. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 December 2007, 21:23:50 Well, there IS a fine line when discussing it on English boards. It's Mega Man here. This isn't Rockman Matrix afterall.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 21:26:28 I don't see the problem honestly, we're all talking about the same thing, and I'm sure everyone here knows the differences between the names. So I say call then by whichever language you want.
Just as long as you call Axl Crap. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: SB on 10 December 2007, 21:42:54 Well... Speaking of Rockman when in relation of Megaman is the same level of speaking about the Super Sentai series to Power Ranger fans... In the end, everyone's just going to feel silly, and realize they have their own seperate storylines and tellings of events.
Seriously, hasn't ZCW taught you people ANYTHING? Rockman probably even has his gambling ring addition as canon to explain why Wily keeps building his things in the Rockman Series, while we have Megaman Soccer in ours to explain just how low Wily's willing to go to WASTE said resources. Rockman has SARS, even! But in all seriousness, you've got much to learn about how you can't compare the Raw to the Localized, my young Padawan. They really are two seperate series with their own continuity issues that don't always work out too well when speaking to others. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 December 2007, 21:52:14 Who says I compare everything else? It's just Megaman. Besides the differences are very minor and barely noticeable. If theres some worth pointing out, bring'em to my attention.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Aresian on 10 December 2007, 21:54:52 Who says I compare everything else? It's just Megaman. Besides the differences are very minor and barely noticeable. If theres some worth pointing out, bring'em to my attention. *slap* Reread SB's post, you silly rittle mahn! Incidently. Capcom of America doesn't translate Megaman. It alters the storyline quite frequently. Megaman Xtreme is a good mini-example, where Vile was VAVA as it was ment to be, but not in X1. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 10 December 2007, 21:55:29 But Vile's a cool name.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Aresian on 10 December 2007, 21:59:11 Mettaur = Mettall
EXE series had it right, Classic didn't. Metool is blasphemy created by Capcom of America. Incorrect translation. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Ben on 10 December 2007, 21:59:34 But Vile's a cool name. Tell the doctor in his reanimating suit and his head stuck in a lava lamp. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 10 December 2007, 22:01:30 His name is Weil.
I'm going to call him Weil. Since that is his name here that is what I will call him. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 December 2007, 23:53:58 Metool > Metall, sorry.
Vile = Boba Fett rip off of epic coolness (so MHX won't be included in this) Wiel = insulting Wily wannabe. The main point is we're on an English language MEGA MAN board, and there are enough differences that you should not mix the terminology. You want to talk about Rockman, go to a Japanese site. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Aresian on 11 December 2007, 00:02:26 Metool > Metall, sorry. Metall = Truth. >_> VAVA = Lame name, not arguing, still truth. Wiel = Why does Wiel exist, Papa Rez? Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 11 December 2007, 00:08:39 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT...
:: beats with tomatoe stick :: Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Aresian on 11 December 2007, 01:55:32 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT... *is befuddled* Bah! You and your tomatoe stick... just you wait, one day I'll have my own tomatoe stick and I'll be the one beating you with my stick! Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 11 December 2007, 02:03:00 This babys one of a kind. SORRY CHARLIE.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Raven on 11 December 2007, 20:03:48 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT... What is it with you and tomato sticks? Not to be rude or anything. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 11 December 2007, 20:32:01 It's his "thing".
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 11 December 2007, 21:18:55 Only vets or old time members know the true origins of my Tomatoe Stick and Nibbles. Woe be to you whom does not know thier splendor or power.
The "tomatoe stick" is my staff. My old OLD Rezo sprite's staff looked like a stick with a tomato on it. Tomatoe is a funny misspelling of tomato so that's what stuck. Nibbles is my vorpol bunny. Now that you know, feel free to cower in fear. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: DJSonic on 11 December 2007, 21:35:55 *cowers and fears for the hedgehog eater that is Nibbles* :'(
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Aresian on 11 December 2007, 22:29:24 Only vets or old time members know the true origins of my Tomatoe Stick and Nibbles. Woe be to you whom does not know thier splendor or power. YOUR CARCTUR IS UNORIGENAL Ahem, anyway, yeah, it's Rez. The OLDEST member of the MM community. Older than his sprite. >_> *throws DJ infront of him* Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 11 December 2007, 23:12:58 Actually it was never suppose to be the actual character from slayers. Hazard just did a sprite for him and I went with it. But it wasn't too long before He did up an actual custom sprite that eventually became what I use today. A Red Priesty thing. But the tomatoe stick remains.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Aresian on 11 December 2007, 23:16:20 Actually it was never suppose to be the actual character from slayers. Hazard just did a sprite for him and I went with it. But it wasn't too long before He did up an actual custom sprite that eventually became what I use today. A Red Priesty thing. But the tomatoe stick remains. History lesson continues. I know, I know. I just love pulling your leg. I didn't get a fun response this time though. *poke poke* You might be broken. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 11 December 2007, 23:22:16 GET OFF MY LAWN.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Kamon on 11 December 2007, 23:42:04 If Nibbles is from where I think he is, I'm not going near him. Not without a HHG and a unit of highly expendable knights I can use as cannon fodder... *backs away slowly*
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 11 December 2007, 23:52:18 Holy Hand Grenades are ineffective against Nibbles. They only irritate him.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Kamon on 11 December 2007, 23:55:18 In that case, there's only one thing to do...
Run away!! Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Raven on 12 December 2007, 15:13:24 Holy Hand Grenades are ineffective against Nibbles. They only irritate him. Yeah! That rabbit is DYNAMITE! Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Chron on 14 December 2007, 21:39:04 That's like saying a nuke is a kind of firecracker.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 15 December 2007, 04:11:02 It's more of a vacuum, really.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 16 December 2007, 07:21:41 ZX to me is on par with Classic and X. I haven't played ZX but ##### no. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 16 December 2007, 23:07:27 Woah. Did he really say that? I must've been occupied, 'cause that's whack.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Kamon on 16 December 2007, 23:22:17 Actually, you had the post after him.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 16 December 2007, 23:23:53 ZX to me is on par with Classic and X. Seconded. Although I've played ZX. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 16 December 2007, 23:29:36 Actually, you had the post after him. Yeah, I already checked back after Mike posted that. I somehow missed it. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 16 December 2007, 23:43:07 ZX isn't even bad! Give the game a chance! Rez is exempt.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 16 December 2007, 23:47:44 It's not if it's bad or not, it's just that it doesn't compare to Classic or X...
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Kamon on 17 December 2007, 00:07:42 I agree with Nova, it doesn't compare to Classic or the early X series.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 17 December 2007, 00:54:42 Exactly. I like ZX and am one of the members ignoring Rez's words on this subject. ZX is a good game but there are areas in need of improvement.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 17 December 2007, 01:24:13 Fair enough.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 17 December 2007, 01:24:48 I'll try ZX when I do, and I don't know if it sucks or not, but I DO know that it's no Classic or X. That's unpossible.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 17 December 2007, 05:58:03 ZX isn't even bad! Give the game a chance! Rez is exempt. Sorry, but ZX is just as sucktastic. Playing through ZXA is even worse than ZX. Ashe charge shot = useless. Morph forms = even more useless. Changing between forms to do the equilivant of take one step across the room = same fail as ZX. ZXA didn't FIX anything. It just got rid of the almost passable new main characters for ANOTHER two new ones that are about as Mega Man as cyber elfs and combined them with a girly voiced even more whiny Axl. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Vinchenz Rock on 17 December 2007, 06:01:04 This is why I like Rez: He has a different opinion from everyone else.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 17 December 2007, 06:02:59 Nobody likes me.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Vinchenz Rock on 17 December 2007, 06:05:55 I SAID I DID!
*Runs away crying* Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 19 December 2007, 02:46:17 HE CALLED YOU NOBODY
KICK HIS SCRAWNY OLD ASS It's all a front, you know! The Tomatoe Stick is nothing more than a Tomatoe CANE now! And Nibbles? Ha! Actually, yeah, Nibbles is healthier than ever. Run the ##### away. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: KPL on 27 December 2007, 11:29:24 Only vets or old time members know the true origins of my Tomatoe Stick and Nibbles. Woe be to you whom does not know thier splendor or power. They were the ultimate flaming weapons of doom. Now with all-new added admin powers! Nibbles came by later, didn't he? Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 27 December 2007, 15:00:56 Not by much.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Lunchebox on 10 February 2008, 01:01:52 General Question - Why is this series so awful? I'm sorry, your opinion on all matters pretaining to Capcom's Megaman/Rockman video game series have been rendered invalid. You must now take your things and exit this website immediately. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 13 February 2008, 18:28:42 I think we already beat him with a sack of rock salt and rabid badgers for that comment. But it is one of the epic stupid comments ever made here.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Lunchebox on 19 February 2008, 11:57:39 So then... I WON'T need the aluminum bat?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 19 February 2008, 12:39:43 No...better get Orclev and her spiked bat.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 21 February 2008, 15:13:32 ... orclev. Not Orclev.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 23 February 2008, 04:21:29 Now Xero's gonna be the one who gets her bat. In the batty, that is!
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 23 February 2008, 09:27:56 Aww #####.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 5 April 2008, 03:31:21 ...the series is over, holmes.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 5 April 2008, 03:35:00 Yeah, and then she got a swift kick in the pants when he came back as a rock.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 5 April 2008, 03:39:37 Ceil has a crush on zero, right?Boy, I see no IF in there at all. And Zero was pretty oblivious to Ciel's feelings, what a dink. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 5 April 2008, 05:17:45 He might've said "If" WIND.
He just didn't type it. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 5 April 2008, 05:21:33 IF.. Ceil has a crush on zero, does zero like her? There's the "If". Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 5 April 2008, 05:27:53 Maybe the "IF" is secretly incoded somewhere in the post.
Damnit, WE'LL NEVER FIND IT NOW. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 5 April 2008, 06:55:40 Robots and humans shouldn't date anyway.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 6 April 2008, 02:48:01 What would you call the children?
Ha, Romans. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 7 April 2008, 04:33:01 They died at the end of Z3.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 7 April 2008, 11:43:00 Yep, the only major characters in any MegaMan game to stay dead.
Aside from Iris, of course. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Rama Olendris on 7 April 2008, 22:46:35 The hell? Ciel's like 14 ~ 16 years old, Zero has no business being paired with her. Even if Ciel had romantic feelings for him- I didn't perceive, read, or come to any conclusion of Zero having mutual loving feelings for her in return. He definitely had affection for her and cared about her well-being- but that doesn't mean he loved her. 8)
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 7 April 2008, 22:49:54 It was probably part of his programming to not be a child molester.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Rama Olendris on 7 April 2008, 22:55:38 Let's hope... We don't need any of THAT. Zero's a badass, but he's not that badass.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 8 April 2008, 18:52:07 The pedobear cyber elf is at fault for that...
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 8 April 2008, 23:06:59 The hell? Ciel's like HUMAN, Zero has no business being paired with her. Fixed for the REAL crime of that pairing. DNA not DNA Data. KEEP HUMANITY PURE. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 8 April 2008, 23:27:28 ...besides, we don't want Ciel to catch AIDs... I think.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 8 April 2008, 23:30:11 3/10. Nice try. Here's a Wily Fun Bux. Go buy some gum or something.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Rama Olendris on 8 April 2008, 23:37:12 The hell? Ciel's like HUMAN, Zero has no business being paired with her. Even if they were together... I don't think they could DO anything. I highly doubt Zero has a #####. None the less... they stay apart. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 8 April 2008, 23:39:04 DON'T DATE ROBOTS (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zz6dP8HF7_I)
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Rama Olendris on 8 April 2008, 23:43:17 The hell!? Why is ##### censored? ##### isn't a bad word? Does anyone really get offended by the word #####?
DON'T DATE ROBOTS (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zz6dP8HF7_I) Whatever makes you happy. Just don't go around spreading the DUR DUR DUR syndrome. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 9 April 2008, 00:29:25 I'm deeply offended by five pound symbols.
Also, I love the Futurama clip. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 9 April 2008, 06:16:04 DON'T DATE ROBOTS (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zz6dP8HF7_I) That's what I've been thinking of this whole time. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 9 April 2008, 15:40:12 Dr. Light was just bitter all these years because he couldn't get laid and have kids, so he built Rock and Roll in the first step of making humanoid robots with naughty bits so that eventually humanity would become extinct.... Mega Man Legends was Lights ULTIMATE VICTORY!!! DEATH TO THE CARBONS!!!
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Jose Luis on 9 April 2008, 23:47:10 Since Zero dies and comes back, do you think the Zero series will continue? I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 10 April 2008, 00:17:10 Zero only came back twice. And one of those returns was because of the idiots who made X6.
Also, MMZ will NOT (thank God) be continued. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 10 April 2008, 16:54:26 Zero only came back twice. And one of those returns was because of the idiots who made X6. Dead dead? Once. He was hella f'd up in X5, but that state was practically factory new compared to being completely fragged in X1. I don't see it as nearly as much a strech saying he didn't die in X5 considering the gap from X5 to Z1 (with Z1 going soley off X5's ending) has Zero in much the same state he was in during his last X5 cutscene. So he was obviously just very, very broken, not dead. Also, this is all assuming you give MMZ or any X game past 4 any canon weight, which I do not. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Rama Olendris on 10 April 2008, 21:09:52 Since Zero dies and comes back, do you think the Zero series will continue? I really enjoyed it. He got -blown- up and shattered to smithereens from space. He's come back from death before but only when he at least had a head. He's never suffered damage to this extent before so it's highly doubtful that he'd come back... I don't think Capcom will continue the Zero series- hell I hope they don't, so far it's the only MM series they have completed. Also they would have to come up with an explanation as to how Zero comes back- which would probably just makes things ugly and over complicated unless they want to through in the capricious dragon balls of Rockman. Personally, I don't want him to come back, I like him as a character but I think he's suffered enough and he needs to stay dead with the Zero series. I loved the games probably as much as anyone who enjoyed them did but I like to see things completed. I'm content with the ending present. Trouble often brews when series never end. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 10 April 2008, 21:41:16 so far it's the only MM series they have completed *ahem* Battle Network. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 10 April 2008, 21:48:14 And ZX, oh, I didn't mention that? Yeah, the chances of a third ZX game is VERY slim. Instead they're releasing a gigamix album of ZX and ZXA with new artwork and drama tracks.
It's no ZX3, but it's something to be enjoyed(slightly).. (http://www.inti.co.jp/images/top/gigamix/gigamix.jpg) Heres (http://www.inti.co.jp/cd/gigamix/index.htm) some info on the track list. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Rama Olendris on 10 April 2008, 21:50:46 so far it's the only MM series they have completed Whoops, my bad. Forgot about that. I was going on which series really felt -done-. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 10 April 2008, 23:05:28 I look at Battle Network as a funny series.
Just because it was completely fine and full of life at the beginning. Later, it's seen screaming bloody murder as Capcom violates it to death. And NOW that it's dead, they insist on humping the corpse: Starforce. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 11 April 2008, 16:57:31 I like him as a character but I think he's suffered enough and he needs to stay dead with the Zero series. The only suffering he had was being PUT in the Zero series. And as a character? Zero had all the personality of a corpse in MMZ. There will not be a tear shed if they never go back to that awful, awful mistake of a series. Mind you blown to SPACE DUST or not, he's a happy elf bio metal whatever the ##### in ZX. But by then is there any point in even TRYING to keep a congruent plot (especially when it's already rotting more than 2 week old hamburger on the floor)? I submit the answer is "no". Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Rama Olendris on 11 April 2008, 20:52:37 I submit the answer is "no". Word. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 11 April 2008, 21:12:12 I like the ZX series. Maybe not love it, but I enjoyed it.
However, if there was anything I disliked about it that really stuck out, it was the plot. That ##### is corny and dull as hell. It's like, playing a video game version of a ripped off anime. "I'ma 14-year old kid that all of a sudden gets special powers and decides to use them to save the world. Not to mention my friends. I love my friends. FRIENDSHIP POWAAAAAH!" "IT'S A GUNDAAAAAM!!" Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 11 April 2008, 21:28:02 All the friendship power ##### in MegaMan is starting to get old.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 13 April 2008, 00:03:55 I like how when X dies he explodes, no matter what killed him. Big giant laser, big crazy blade, ... spike...
But Zero, not so much. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 13 April 2008, 00:16:51 Zero likes to stay topical.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 14 April 2008, 15:04:21 It's because X runs of highly combustable HYDROGEN fuel whereas Zero runs on much safer petrol.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 15 April 2008, 02:08:37 How many miles to the gallon, respectively?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 15 April 2008, 02:30:53 It's a cool place, and they say it gets colder.
You're bundled up now? Wait 'til you get older. But the MEGA MEN beg to differ, Judging by the hole in the satellite picture. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 15 April 2008, 02:33:46 Remember those Hit Clips things? Those little stereo-shaped keyrings with music cartridges you could buy? I used to have one for that song, and now I'm on a quest to find it.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 15 April 2008, 06:10:17 Those things were almost as stupid as the toothbrushes they make that play a song. They only play the one song, and also why would you even want your toothbrush to blash "I wanna Rock n' Roll all Nite" into your teeth? You wouldn't even hear it correctly.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 15 April 2008, 11:45:37 I agree, but it's the nostalgia I'm after. I found it, by the way. It plays about 50 seconds of the song and ends.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: XJ on 16 April 2008, 12:36:17 More like Hit SCAM.
M I RITE?! M I RITE?! Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 16 April 2008, 18:14:49 Scam doesn't rhyme with Clips.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 16 April 2008, 21:38:24 It does if you're deaf...
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 17 April 2008, 04:14:26 .
. . Touché, Priest. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: albert on 9 May 2008, 08:55:55 do you know a website for megaman or rockman games that can be download? ???
Posted on: 9 May 2008, 08:52:24 please if you know a website for rockman please put it here in our forums :'( Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xzeemo on 9 May 2008, 15:21:06 Did you even read the rules? That right there is like the number one thing on the list. You aren't even supposed to talk about them. Do you want to know why? Because it's illegal.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Abominator on 9 May 2008, 17:03:54 And now he's dead.
*cry* Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 9 May 2008, 18:33:55 I never stop to wonder if people are really that stupid or if it's just a troll...
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Vinchenz Rock on 9 May 2008, 18:52:15 I never stop to wonder if people are really that stupid or if it's just a troll... So... you walk and wonder that? Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 16 May 2008, 06:40:38 Don't wonder and walk! Winners don't do contemplation!
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheOnly on 18 June 2009, 22:47:18 If they made MegaMan Zero for the PS2 or Gamecube(and like use X4 concepts). I think there wouldn't be as much hate as there is today...
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 19 June 2009, 02:08:41 I'd disagree with that statement, even though a Mega Man Zero game on an actual console sounds nice to me. It'd probably just decrease just by a little.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 19 June 2009, 02:52:30 Still wouldn't fix the crappy level design and annoyingly cheap bosses that seem to have little to no pattern therefore becoming a luck game.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheOnly on 19 June 2009, 04:06:04 Wow. You guys are really hard on the Zero series, eh?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 19 June 2009, 04:25:20 Trust me, I've given them enough chances and I just find myself wanting to die rather than continue playing.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 19 June 2009, 06:15:38 It's the story I dislike in MMZ the most, so putting it on a console doesn't change that. Gameplay-wise it just felt glitchy, or at least unfinished/unpolished to me, not overly hard or cheap.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheOnly on 19 June 2009, 06:37:51 Well, I rest my case then -.-".
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 19 June 2009, 06:45:07 Usually one rests their case when they feel they've proven themselves correct beyond a shadow of a doubt, but sure.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 20 June 2009, 03:35:17 I'm one of the rare members who actually likes the series.. I liked the story and the gameplay, as well as the art on SOME levels.
The story was good, but I can agree on the cyber elf thing being stupid. Other than that it was really good, having X as an antagonist leading a corrupt empire filled with pantheons (X-clones) was a really wicked idea. If it were an alternate reality and without cyber elves, then it'd probably be my favorite series. The art was good, of course there's flaws like making everybody look like 14 year old girls, but everything else was pretty cool. Gameplay was fine, wasn't as glitchy as the SNES MMX games (fact), the only problem I saw was the size of the screen, which everybody knows screws up your ability to play. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 20 June 2009, 03:53:55 I'd like the story if it wasn't supposed to be what happens after the X series.
And I personally love the Zero series. Still haven't played the fourth, though. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 20 June 2009, 05:38:05 Don't.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TriggerUNIT on 20 June 2009, 06:01:42 Honestly, the story is pretty good... in concept. If it played out like the others it would feel perfect as apposed to incomplete.
Mega Man: "Defeat evil doctor and stop him from ruling the world. Alright awesome." X: "Destroy robots driven mad by a virus. Great." Zero: "Long long ago, in a battle that we will explain very little of.... Wait... What? Ok this could still be fun... And X is dead... Wow, lame." You getting this? It has too much of a backstory, a backstory which is actually important in explaining things, so it's crammed into a game that should have very little of a story line, thus the feeling of the story line being "pushy". Not to mention it's always from one extreme to another extreme with this game, giving everything very little time to develope and play out and leaving it with a story that just sorta seems... there and not really fitting. If it was thought through... like REALLY thought through, I bet you we would have been fighting in the elf wars before they pumped out this, then there wouldn't be a need for a jumbled up backstory. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Yusuke on 9 April 2010, 02:46:51 Zero 1: The bosses are so out of place. Aztec Falcon, Thunder Beetle, and Flame Monkey should be stage select bosses. The four guardians should be fortress bosses, not stage select bosses, unless you want to pull a Megaman 3. The dragon thing and the train do not belong in the stage select part.
Zero 2: The game got alot better on where they can place bosses. But Thunder Kuwanger is an Intermission boss, and the guardians are still stage select bosses. Zero 3: This game did alot better. It was alot like Megaman 7 and 8. Beat four bosses, and beat an intermission stage, then four more bosses. The problem with it is that there are so many intermission stages that they only put two fortress stages. First off the Baby Elves stage was okay, then we fight three bosses from the first game, kinda like how Megaman fights Megaman 2 bosses again in Megaman 3, with differences being that you fight them in their original forms, you don't fight them in the bosses of this games stages, and they don't include all of them. Finally we get Copy X, who should have had a fortress stage. Zero 4: This game did a wonderful job on placing bosses where they belong. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 9 April 2010, 12:10:58 Zero 1: The bosses are so out of place. Aztec Falcon, Thunder Beetle, and Flame Monkey should be stage select bosses. The four guardians should be fortress bosses, not stage select bosses, unless you want to pull a Megaman 3. The dragon thing and the train do not belong in the stage select part. Doesn't change the fact that the Zero series is #####. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheOnly on 9 April 2010, 16:32:15 I don't think he was trying to make the Zero series look good, on the buildings on the lvls and were the bosses and how CAPCOM tried to make it better by improving it by each sequal they make.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Yusuke on 30 April 2010, 20:28:12 What pisses me off about the first game is that every stage has the same music. Don't you get tired hearing Aztec Falcon's theme carry on to be Blizzack Staggroff's theme, and then carry on to be Harpuia's theme. Like I said, the boss placement is completely out of place. Most of the bosses just don't belong in the mission stages. Here are the ones that should be in the mission stages.
-Stage Select Aztec Falcon (get the thunder chip) Maha Ganeshariff Anubis Necro. III Blizzack Staggroff (get the ice chip) Hanumachine (get the fire chip) Herculious Anchortus The four guardians can be fortress bosses. The train engine and the element thing can be sub bosses, or fortress bosses. Or hell, even intermediate bosses. I hate the whole leveling up thing. I like how they stopped doing that in Megaman Zero 3. Also, the techniques Zero gets from bosses (aka EX Skills) are lazy as hell. Most of them are just rehashes from previous games. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 30 April 2010, 20:55:46 You're assuming people actually got them, since you didn't automatically get the skills from beating them, you had to clear the stage in 15 seconds killing every enemy and not taking a single hit to earn them.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Yusuke on 30 April 2010, 21:53:01 You're assuming people actually got them, since you didn't automatically get the skills from beating them, you had to clear the stage in 15 seconds killing every enemy and not taking a single hit to earn them. Thanks for reminding me about all the crap you go through just to unlock those. Megaman Zero 4 did a much better job getting those. If you play the stage, thats suited to its weather than you get the weapon. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: FearTheBeans on 6 June 2010, 06:01:44 I say screw you all who hate this series (especially redpriest. you piss me off the most). I found it entertaining. Yes there are a few flaws (aka the ranking which barely matter), but it was fun. I liked the series and the challange. And what's with the thong issue? they are robots. they dont have thongs. Honestly I like all the series (though i havent played zx or x) exept for starforce. No matter what you say, I still dont see why you hate this series. :P
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Fatso on 6 June 2010, 06:31:10 I don't think the challenge is the big thing with most people here. I know I love extremely difficult games for the most part, but couldn't stand mmz mostly due to the stupid metroidvania-esque map layout and the anorexic art style. And the music was less than inspiring as well. Most of the real problems are due to it not really being a mega man series to begin with.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 6 June 2010, 07:59:12 It's your opinion, man. Some (most) of us hate it, and some like it.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Johncarllos on 6 June 2010, 14:47:22 The gameplay is alright, I beat the first one when I was just a kid, but it isn't really a Megaman game.
And you've never played the X series? Play through them and then you'll realize how awesome they are and why the Zero series is a pile of flaming poopy in comparison. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 6 June 2010, 15:19:07 I say screw you all who hate this series (especially redpriest. you piss me off the most). Why do you CARE if people hate MMZ. You didn't make it (although you spell like you did). I disagree with you on the series, but at the same time, I couldn't give less of a #####. Especially not enough to say "screw you"... At least for having a different opinion of the series than I do, because there are other things I coooouuld........... Also, that series sucks. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Majikn on 7 June 2010, 05:23:25 I say screw you all who hate this series (especially redpriest. you piss me off the most). When you said that, I made a noise like an owl. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: FearTheBeans on 8 June 2010, 00:07:03 Honestly I'm tired of seeing you all say how bad of a seires it is. It's not that bad. you guys make it seem like a really bad game when it isnt!
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 8 June 2010, 00:36:31 I don't care.
I think those games are terrible and that has NOTHING to do with you. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Abominator on 8 June 2010, 18:16:41 I like the jumping and shooting parts.
The rest can go. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 8 June 2010, 18:26:37 Honestly I'm tired of seeing you all say how bad of a seires it is. It's not that bad. you guys make it seem like a really bad game when it isnt! It's our OPINION. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but... you gotta deal with it. There's always going to be people that hate a game you love... and there'll be people who will like a game you hate. That's just the way it is, man. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: FearTheBeans on 8 June 2010, 18:43:04 Well unlike most of you, I dont go out of my way to go and tell people how bad it is.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 8 June 2010, 19:06:46 Well unlike most of you, I dont go out of my way to go and tell people how bad it is. Well said sir, well said! Especially with so many dicks in your mouth. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 8 June 2010, 20:42:36 How exactly am I "going out of my way to hate the series"? Is it because I'm detailing my reasons for not liking it in good detail or something? Because, last I checked, this was a forum where people could express their opinion.
When it comes down to it, I've played the X series long enough for it to have become something I could grow to love. I heard about the Zero series with similar/greater expectations. The series failed to meet a LOT of those expectations, and thus isn't what I want to play. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Majikn on 8 June 2010, 22:01:27 Well unlike most of you, I dont go out of my way to go and tell people how bad it is. See this post, guys? People like this grow into that way of thinking and become active members of our society. It's scary. Now, not that I even said anything about the Zero series—I tried it, and put it down very quickly—but posting on a forum where I regularly post is not "going out of my way" to say anything. Maybe if I was going on youtube videos of MMZ and saying "This ##### SUCKS" and jumping on other forums to express hate for the series it might be considered inappropriate. But here I don't feel like censoring my opinion. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: FearTheBeans on 9 June 2010, 19:58:24 If you "arent going out of your way" why are you on the zero post and not the megaman x?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ASR on 9 June 2010, 20:04:18 Because this forum isn't very active and when there's a new post - no matter which subforum it's in - we're sure to participate in the discussion. There's really no room for anyone to ignore threads here, because there's only maybe 10-20 posts on an average day lately, sometimes no more than 3-5.
I personally really enjoy the Zero series, but I don't give a crap whether or not anyone else here feels the same way. It doesn't make a difference to me. Rez is an old coot with impossibly high standards, but we love him anyway because old people are hilariously adorable. And he'll kill us if we say we don't like him. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 9 June 2010, 20:48:00 If you like MMZ, you're already dead INSIDE. I can't do anything else to you.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 9 June 2010, 22:19:11 The Zero series tries too hard to be hardcore without giving any middle ground to inexperienced players. The games punish you hard for making the wrong decisions and you have very little room for error. Not only that but the game #####s you over with the ranking system that's been put into place.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 9 June 2010, 23:51:19 You could probably say similar things--Other than the ranking system stuff--about the original MM games, so while I don't like the Zero series, I have to disagree with Xero's reasons (in part).
Well unlike most of you, I dont go out of my way to go and tell people how bad it is. You're the only person here going out of your way. As Majikn said, we were already here. If anything, we're going INTO our way, and only when asked, really. If we ALL had the same opinion and cared enough to "go out of our way" or do any sort of EXTRA work for it, there would even be a section for the Zero series or a General Zero Series Enquiries thread. In fact, you're going out of your way to tell us off or something (I really don't understand you), just for having a different opinion than you, of which you, a stranger, shouldn't even care about. And as ASR said, the forum isn't as active as Gaia Online or some stupid thing, so every member tends to join in every conversation and, personally, I like that. Your argument has just been utterly destroyed. I say screw you all who hate this series (especially redpriest. you piss me off the most). Who? Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 10 June 2010, 02:29:50 If you "arent going out of your way" why are you on the zero post and not the megaman x? Your assumptions on people's motives when it comes to a discussion are incredibly incorrect. What you're proposing is fallible. Similar to/just like what ASR and Mike are saying, we come on the forum for a discussion. When I see there's a new post or discussion to be had, I check it out. Just because I don't like the series, doesn't mean I don't want to discuss about it. If I feel that I need to reply on a comment that is said, I will do so. If not, I will move on to the next thread, etc. I am in no way going against my own will or "taking the trouble" to say something. Like Mike said, you're not making any sense, and we can all see that. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 10 June 2010, 03:11:44 Speaking of Mega Man Zero, I'm starting to feel sorry for myself that I'm dying on Easy mode in MMZ1 on the Collection...
Hilariously enough, they cover the spikes that are easy to avoid, but then they neglect to cover the ones that EVERYONE IS GOING TO FALL FOR. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Majikn on 10 June 2010, 03:31:25 When you said that, I made a noise like an owl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fppKGJD3Y6c Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Johncarllos on 10 June 2010, 03:40:11 okay?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 10 June 2010, 04:39:58 o rly?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 10 June 2010, 12:47:44 And what does that have to do with Mega Man Zero?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: ChaosVortex on 10 June 2010, 14:34:57 Because shut up.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Majikn on 10 June 2010, 20:19:15 I didn't QUOTE what I was responding to that was like, two posts away.
Fine, I'll add it in. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: FearTheBeans on 12 June 2010, 01:58:27 Speaking of Mega Man Zero, I'm starting to feel sorry for myself that I'm dying on Easy mode in MMZ1 on the Collection...That came out already?!? Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Xero on 12 June 2010, 09:09:45 Yeah.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 12 June 2010, 20:26:51 Easy Scenario is Easy. I beat it within the hour.
Seriously, they give you filled subtanks, fully leveled weapons, all the elves are used so you're fast, strong and you jump high, and your health bar is sky high, you can use command charge shots, AAAAND you have that secret Cyber Elf that lets you go invisible for 30 seconds when you hold B.. And you STILL think it's hard?.. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 12 June 2010, 21:38:14 I have no tolerance for it...
The game just isn't fun whatsoever. Even with ridiculous handicaps it feels like a chore to play... It's not hard, but I was dying in it, because one of the bosses has some stupid spike ceiling BS that I didn't notice at first. Oh, and Zero 2 had a FALLING spike ceiling during one of the levels, and there was NO warning for it at all. ..I'm just moving and BAM I'm dead. But of course Ciel will contact me to tell me I need to jump over that hole in front of me. It's not hard, but that doesn't make it any better than regular mode... well, regular mode would cause me to break my DS in half in rage, so maybe Easy mode is for me. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: FearTheBeans on 12 June 2010, 23:17:26 Im gonna get it. so is it just easy, regular and hard modes? what else is there?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 13 June 2010, 07:24:39 Yeah, let's totally ignore the actual conversation in favour of this #####.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 13 June 2010, 08:04:15 I have no tolerance for it... Yeah I figured. It's fun for me so that's where ##### differs. I really don't see much more appeal to the game though, they really didn't change much; it's just like X collection. But they did enhance the soundtrack, and I know people will hate on the gameplay and stuff and that's all daisies, but if you disrespect the soundtrack I'll stab you to death witha rusty spoon. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NovaMan XP on 13 June 2010, 08:44:11 I have no problems with the soundtrack.
I don't even know if it's because I suck or if I'm impatient anymore. I think I'll continue playing more eventually... if anything to at least say I've beaten them. I've only beaten Zero 1 on the GBA. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 13 June 2010, 18:53:29 You probably don't suck.
If you can play original and original-style MM games without the headache then it's probably the Zero games' fault. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 14 June 2010, 14:30:14 The soundtrack sucks.
There are VERY few good pieces of music in the Zero series. Now, from a TECHNICAL standpoint I am actually impressed how much nicer the music sounds being rendered on the DS's sound chip. It's a lot like the Phoenix Wright games when you compare the sound quality between the GBA and DS versions. I really wish they'd go back and do that with the two GBA Castleroids. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheOnly on 15 June 2010, 18:59:54 Just got done with MMZ1, the lvls gave me more of a hard time then what the bosses did.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 18 June 2010, 05:39:47 The soundtrack sucks. You sucks! There's actually a good chunk of catchy tunes, but opinions opinions blah blah blah Now, from a TECHNICAL standpoint I am actually impressed how much nicer the music sounds being rendered on the DS's sound chip. Seconded. I really wish they'd go back and do that with the two GBA Castleroids. It's Metrovania, you old fart! Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Majikn on 18 June 2010, 07:22:27 I like Castleroids.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: preventerWIND on 18 June 2010, 14:19:31 A roid like you would.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 18 June 2010, 14:37:03 I've got a real bad case of Castleroids right now...
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 18 June 2010, 23:34:11 A roid like you would.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: FearTheBeans on 6 July 2010, 22:48:06 After getting MMZC, i discovered that MMZ1 is WAY harder than the other 3 games. It's crazy.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheOnly on 7 July 2010, 00:39:43 I feel that way as well.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: FearTheBeans on 8 July 2010, 01:52:23 On mmz1 i cant beat copy x's 2nd form
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NekoMaru on 2 March 2011, 19:55:46 If you like MMZ, you're already dead INSIDE. I can't do anything else to you. I liked megaman zero and enjoyed playing just like all the other series..except legends, I never got to play that...or X7 and these game just plain don't count such as X6 cause that was crap ZXA cause it wasn't that fun and Rocman X cause it was a pirated game and the music made my ear bleed. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 2 March 2011, 21:47:47 I liked megaman zero and enjoyed playing just like all the other series..except legends, I never got to play that...or X7 and these game just plain don't count such as X6 cause that was crap ZXA cause it wasn't that fun and Rocman X cause it was a pirated game and the music made my ear bleed. I think you were trying to make a point, but it got lost in the stupid. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Slugkid on 3 March 2011, 12:10:59 Here, Rez.
"I liked MMZ. I didn't play legends, or X7, and I played some games that shouldn't count as games because they are plain or crap, namely, X6, ZXA, and Rockman X (Because it was pirated)" @NekoMaru, you are really missing out on Legends. Did you play all MMZ games? Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NekoMaru on 3 March 2011, 13:21:37 Sorry for the long reply but yes i played all of them.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Johncarllos on 3 March 2011, 16:31:44 Pft, long reply my ass.
We write walls of text sometimes. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: NekoMaru on 4 March 2011, 00:37:41 By long I ment the time I took to post it.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Fatso on 4 March 2011, 01:01:43 A clearer word in that case, for future reference, is 'late' or 'delayed'.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Johncarllos on 4 March 2011, 03:31:37 Ha, we go days between replies sometimes. you being here at least speeds us up to minimum trolling.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 4 March 2011, 14:16:37 Why haven't we locked this entire sub forum yet?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Slugkid on 4 March 2011, 16:14:38 To let off some steam ranting about how bad it is and how nobody likes it and everyone who does is "dead inside"?
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 4 March 2011, 19:27:07 I can still do that even if it is locked.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Architect on 26 August 2011, 08:08:33 Wow, I hadn't realized there was so much hate on the Zero series. I'm a little afraid to admit that I enjoy them, because it looks to to do so seems to earn you the mark of a heretic...
I just skimmed the thread, and I see a lot of points and counter points, some I agree with, and some I don't, but I think the games are very well done, especially for GBA. I mean, I've been a gamer my whole life, I've seen awful, and I've seen X7 awful, I've played nearly every Megaman game save for any Star Force title (because it looks and sounds like a power-rangers spin off in my opinion), and I would never say that the Zero series is by any means terrible. Granted, it's got it's fair share of flaws, but now I'm just curious as to why you all seem to hate it so much. Can someone give me a list of reasons they hate it so much? Hell, even if I disagree I'd still like to know why others hate it so much. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Fatso on 26 August 2011, 09:02:30 Most of the reasons are laid out in this thread.
Mind you, I think 'hate' is too strong for most people here (the exceptions should be obvious). I don't waste my time hating bad games - unless they're highly influential as well as bad (see Halo). Also mind you, there are a few respected folks around here who did enjoy the games (although none I know of that prefer them to Classic/X/etc.) Also also mind you, I can't list my own reasons in detail because I never spent more than 30 minutes on MMZ. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Johncarllos on 26 August 2011, 17:20:10 The gameplay is okay, but the sprites are too big for the screen so it's hard to see anything until it's right in your face.
The grading system sucked. Cyber Elves are silly and aren't 'MegaMan" enough. It destroyed the story. I had ZERO (ha) connection to the characters or stories because they changed the looks of the characters too much and made their entire past irrelevant. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Architect on 26 August 2011, 19:07:12 I don't think that changin the visual style made the character's pasts irrelevant. It still felt cool ot have to fight X at the end of the first game, even if he was a copy. I could feel the rivalry, it was pretty intense. I'll admit I didn't like the elf system at all, and the fact that the entire second game revolves around them was a lame idea. Like Carlos said, they were definitely not Megaman enough.
Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Johncarllos on 26 August 2011, 23:42:23 BTW, call me John, or JC.
And there's 2 "L"s. They are okay games, just not good MegaMan games. It also pissed me off that they were what the X series was 'supposed' to be. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: TheRedPriest on 29 August 2011, 14:06:14 *bans Architect*
No I kid, I kid. But seriously, the Zero Series is worse than a festering pile of cow #####. Title: Re: GENERAL ZERO SERIES ENQUIRIES Post by: Mikero on 1 September 2011, 23:18:43 Copy X fights nothing like the actual X had...
For that matter, in MMZ Zero doesn't play the same as in the X series, so I really don't understand "feeling" the rivalry. I would get it if they actually fought like the characters in MMX, but they seem so removed from that to me that I couldn't see them as them anymore, robbing the Copy X fight of that sort of meaning (if that's what you'll call it). |