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Discuss or rant on how the series went downward from your point of view.

I'm currently listening to MRadio, and it was playing the Netopia Streets theme from Battle Network 2.

As you know, the Battle Network series made a drastic fall when it reached BN4. Although it slowly creeped back up the slope from the pit of trash it had become, it still doesn't match how great BN1-3 was.

But only now did I realize the music was also at it's peak at BN3.

All my favorite EXE tunes originate from BN1-3. There are some good ones in the later games, but BN1-3 wins with the music, not to mention other things as well. Better graphics, better music, better stories, better gameplay, etc. Only now do I realize this after hearing a tune that produced such great memories.

What the hell went wrong!?

New guy took over apparently.

Battle Network was a great series for the first 3 proper games, with 2 being the penicle.  1 was still good, but the internet was almost unnavigatable because no area was labeled and the program advances were obscure and crap.  On the upside it did have the best chips and chip system for the most part.  3 introduced the navi customizer, but didn't (and the series never would) quite get it right in so far as having to redo the whole damn thing just to put one part in to do one thing.  It also introduced the VERY bad idea of classing the chips and began the multi version ##### that really helped to ruin the series.  2 really got it all right.  Fantastic Program Advances, good chip selection, net, undernet, not using the net for 80% of the game stages, not going overboard on fetch quests.

4-6, complete #####.  Yes, 6 is still a terrible game.  Sprites, plot, gameplay, music all severly downgraded.  They also went bat##### insane on the versions cutting the game up which hurt it from a gameplay standpoint (as well as terrible chip selection).  The side games are all even worse than the last 3 main games.  Battle Chip Challange isn't a game you play, but a game you watch play itself.  Network Transmission is a bastard hybred of Battle Network and 2D side scrolling Mega Man that fails in every aspect.

So yeah, that sums it up in a nutshell.

When it comes to BN3, it's my personal favorite, although it doesn't really touch how awesome BN2 is. I liked the new Mega and Giga class chips since IMO, it added more of a balanced selection. I'm not saying BN2 didn't already have that, but I thought the limitations set with BN3 was good for my taste. Navi Customer is alright. Nothing to really boast about, but I liked it. It'd be better than leveling up your Navi if they, like you said, actually got the thing working right. I never really used a lot of PAs, so that's probably true as well for the maps. Navigating through the net on BN2 was pretty exciting.

Now, the new Mega and Giga classes really went to hell after 3 though. My favorite chips that I loved as standards were now Megas, not to mention most of the Giga and Mega chips were now total crap compared to their BN2-3 counterparts. Any high attack and good Giga/Mega class chips you could kiss goodbye since they all sucked for the most part afterwards. SP/EX/DS chips replaced V1-4 chips which is a HUGE step backward. Navi Customizer stays the same, if not worse.

Oh and the Styles. Those were awesome. What do we get now? Souls and crosses. Good idea, bad implementation.

Their was no game series after BN3 in my eyes the first one was okay, the second was awesome and third was pretty cool. Then came BN4 running around in tournaments all over the world some people might think that is fun It really was horrible. I won't even bother talking about how bad 5 and 6 were.

Oh and the Styles. Those were awesome. What do we get now? Souls and crosses. Good idea, bad implementation.

Styles > Souls. Souls were never a good idea because they were inferior to Styles in every aspect. Crosses tried to merge the Styles with Souls and failed.

I won't even bother talking about how bad 5 and 6 were.

+1 Charisma

You mean bad series gone worse MIRITE!?

: ChaosVortex   3 January 2008, 05:49:02

Oh and the Styles. Those were awesome. What do we get now? Souls and crosses. Good idea, bad implementation.

Styles > Souls. Souls were never a good idea because they were inferior to Styles in every aspect. Crosses tried to merge the Styles with Souls and failed.

I repeat. Good idea, bad implementation.

The idea of merging with your Navi sounded good for a Battle Network game, but as a substitute for styles and how Capcom set it up, it was a horrible set backward.

I though the idea of temporarily fusing two Navi's, which is what Soul Unison basically is, was a bad idea when I heard about it.

Well, when I think about it, it sounds interesting.

Of course, BN4-6 didn't implement what I had in mind.

Atleast it didn't involve a fusion dance.

You mean bad series gone worse MIRITE!?

We're not talking about MMZ/ZX you poor confused Xero...

I throw BN/MMZ/SF as a Bad Series gone worse...cause they all suck IMO.

You mean bad series gone worse MIRITE!?

No.

I throw BN/MMZ/SF as a Bad Series gone worse...cause they all suck IMO.

You missed ZX.

BN was odd...

When it started, I thought it was good, and had potential to be great, but then they did all the wrong things with it.

No...I didn't forget ZX because I don't include ZX in the same pile of failure like you do.

And that is why you fail.

BN was odd...

When it started, I thought it was good, and had potential to be great, but then they did all the wrong things with it.

You know what? I feel the same way with the Zero series.

I thought the Zero series was fail to begin with.

At least BN was good for a while.

Me before:

"Oh, the Zero series? That sounds awesome. It'll play like the X series, but since it's Zero, it'll be even more awesome!"

Me after:

"..."

Oh trust me, everyone was like that.

What turned me off was Zero's look.

I had the thought: "That's not Zero! Zero had armor and stuff! And his sword was green not blue!"


EDIT: Nevermind, Zero always is drawn with a blue saber for some reason EVERYWHERE, even though it's green in game.

Sorta like how ProtoMan.EXE has a pink sword in his art but it's purple in game..

And that is why you fail.

If my failure was rated on how much I enjoy the ZX series then I must have achieved epic failure.

While I like BN6's boss music, it just can't stand up to BN3 and prior.  I don't mind Crosses so much, but if given a choice, give me a Style any day.

I smile just looking at BN3's LIBRARY.  The chips in that game were so awesome.

Oh trust me, everyone was like that.

I was more like "Zero in his own series? Eh, I could take or leave" and after; "Leave."

I think BN3 or 4 went a little overboard with Anti- chips. I seriously didn't have many battles with friends that weren't just anti this anti that and then some big ass P.A.

I did. BN3 Multiplayer was fun, except a few problems with those chips themselves.

There were only a few. One to counter swords, navis, damage, elements, etc. The most popular used in multiplayer was AntiDmg which could avoid your own Guardian chip if you needed to use it and got stuck while able to throw three shurikens. Of course, if you only had one Anti-chip in your folder, your friend would probably know what it is. If you had two, it'd be harder to tell unless it was AntiDmg. I liked those chips, but there should've been a larger variety and possibly some use in single player mode as well.

I won't use traps at all in BN4-5 multiplayer anyway unless it's AntiDmg, and even then it's predictable and crappy in comparison to it's BN3 version.

I remember it was BN3 now, because my friend always used Master Style.

Anti-Damage, Anti-Navi, Anti-Sword, Anti-Elec/Aqua/Heat/Wood, Anti-Recover... And there's probably even more. It's too many considering their codes weren't really special at all or anything. And also it would always be like "Geddon1, Geddon1, Sanctuary, Guardian" or something to ensure that your side is all holy panels and your friend has none. And we'd always have to alter the stage 'cause someone used Sanctuary every ten seconds.

Lucky for me, I was like the only person with Blue. So I could Folderback all the time.

Atleast it didn't involve a fusion dance.

That would be lame because it would be like DBZ.

Wow, thanks!

Y'know guys, I don't know what we'd do without Captain Obvious here.

loltastic.

Here comes another high school story from Old Man Mikero but in high school we called one of our friends Cap'n Obvious.

Cap'n! HAHA, you know, like the cereal guy!

I'm so saving this.

HOLLLLLLLLLLLD!

PBF comics rule.

Network Transmission is a bastard hybred of Battle Network and 2D side scrolling Mega Man that fails in every aspect.

At least the music is nice. Only thing I really like about the game.

Only thing that IS to like about the game.

Indeed....everything else about it sucked.

I never played that one is it really that bad?

Almost as bad as X7 or BN4.

Megaman Battle Network is a good cop... GONE BAD.

Inafaune: Damn it, Battle Network, you've gone TOO FAR THIS TIME!
Battle Network: I didn't go far enough!

Criminal: YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME, I HAVE RIGHTS, MAN!
Battle Network: What about the rights of that little girl?


??: This man... Battle Network. He has single handedly brought my organization to it's knees... BRING HIM TO ME.

(DUN DUN DUN)

[This film is rated PG-13 for violence, sexual situations, and minor language]

Also drugs. Every good bad cop smokes.

Almost as bad as X7 or BN4.

Jesus, but is that even possible?

I still say NT is worse than X7 or BN4.

And X6.

The only thing it's better than is WS RM&F.

I just plain old hated this series. It was horrible.

All of it? The first three games were damn good, 2 being the best.

I meant after 2.

BN3 was good too.

Just not as good.

4 is where the severe drop in quality starts.

I thought it was horrible no offense.

We're all entitled to our own opinions, no matter how worthless they may be.

lol, that was a good one.

...you're a people-pleaser, aren't you?

I thought it was horrible no offense.

NO NO I'M OFFENDED, ATSSFACE!

Oh sh@. You done it nao.

BN3 was damn good. But BN2 was just 100 times better.

BN2 was good in memories. I facking hate the battle system now.

I don't. I recently replayed BN2 from the beginning.

It reminded me of when I played it so long ago, and I had a fun time. I don't want to touch BN4 or above ever again.

I'm TRYING to touch BN5 from the very beginning, but I haven't even beaten BlizzardMan yet.

That was months ago.

I've been trying to touch Aliya-Jasmine Sovani from the very beginning, but she keeps eluding me.

The only one I haven't played is BN6. I could also say "network transmission," but BN games belong on the GBA.

I give them props for TRYING to try something new with it. I liked the turn based strategy bit.

However... was that failure of a pansy unicorn... the revival of blues, Or coronal... where I was all like... "why are you in this series...?"

BN3 was the first one I played... and in my oppinion, the best.
BN1 Was good, but needed the polished, un-bugged feel that 3 had...
BN2 After playing BN1, I had real difficulty playing it... Just couldn't get into it.
BN4 I cry a river of endless blood waiting for my death to come. No one understands how I feel... Why did you forsake me?

Coronal? Hehehe.

Hush.

I'm from Kentucky, they didn't learn me to spell in school.

But seriously. what's the colonel doing in Battle network when he should be making me chicken?

He was hunting for chickens when he got sucked into the Digital World.

Mmmm, Kentucky Fried Kokatorimon.

I'm picturing Colonel Sanders running around on dinosaurs with a huge rifle hunting chicken to stock his restaraunt.

I'm gonna' have some great dreams tonight.

It really is a shame. BN1 and 2 were really good.

A shame? How so? It's a shame BN4, 5 and 6 were pure #####.

If you put a period between "shame" and "BN1" it makes a whole lot more sense.

If you put a period between "shame" and "BN1" it makes a whole lot more sense.

Periods aren't just for teenage girls anymore!  PASS IT ON!

Rather not...

Colonel was possibly the only cool post BN3 design. I wouldn't really call "BN turn-based strategy". The fighting is real time, you just get a strategic break every ten seconds. It's kind of like the NFL but with less drama.

Wait this series was considered a turn based RPG, how is it anything like that?

Mike JUST addressed that issue.

yuri's level of alertness truly continues to astound me to no end.

What astounds me more is that I haven't banned him yet.

Well, he really hasn't done anything severely ban-worthy yet, but you'd think the accumulation of stupid posts would do the trick.

ASR I am curious how are my posts stupid.

k

And my posts are stupid.

Alright Yuri, it's fine, we were ripping on you because your posts contained like.. random outbursts and little to none information.

"I like Zero because he's red"

That's how we saw your posts. Seems like you've started acting better, so I'm sure everyone will lay off.

Oh, I thought you all hated me. lolz

ASR I am curious how are my posts stupid.

Wait this series was considered a turn based RPG, how is it anything like that?

Mike JUST addressed that issue.

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I love these games. : P

I have always loved these games they are all awesome.

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Touche.

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Nice one.

Just naming a few.

ASR replied with a simple one lettered response because... we've already explained it. You must be blind or lazy. You should start reading what you've said and what we've said. It's great that you're being yourself and not trying to act like a random butt, but the fact is your posts make it look like the opposite, that's all.

You're entertaining, to say the least. It's not that we don't like you, it's just that you behave oddly.

I'm glad he's actually trying and I respect that he's being himself (if he is). No one does that.

Dude this is me, a megaman fanatic.

moar liek.  Megaman fanboi.

Same thing.

BN3 was the best. They killed it when Lan moved in BN6.

how about when they totally #####ed over the lay-out of AC-DC town?

Didn't they even re-name it Den-tech city? Like, after the Cartoon?

They ruined it after four!

Did you play 4 quint?

Do you roleplay in the fourth installment? Do you imagine the fury lan feels when he has to start the whole torny over, and save his freinds just to get the last three souls? Do you feel his pain when he has to do it a third time, because he got one twice?!

Did you tamper with Dark chips and think it was cool to be reduced to 1HP?
Did you enjoy FIGHTING that abomination of a BN duo?

Did I you ask?

No sir I did not. It failed far worse than I could ever want.

Yes I even played five.

I was broken to tears as it failed as hard as it did. Why does capcom hate me so, to spend 30 or more american dollars only to be disappointed? Did I do something to offend?

Quint. Battle network died after three. 4,5,6... Hell even the starforce games...

Internet hackers made them.

They are lies. All you know about BN is a lie.

[spoiler]The omega virus swallowed Hub and killed him, lan was sad, and learned to live with it. Wily died too. Lan had a dream about megaman, but when he woke up at the end of 3, Hub was not there. YOU EVEN SEE A SPRITE TEAR![/spoiler]

THAT is how the story ends.


Hi.

Didn't they even re-name it Den-tech city? Like, after the Cartoon?

Lan's hometown was still called AC-DC Town, but it was part of the large Den City. I don't think they renamed it Den-tech City.

BN3 was the best. They killed it when Lan moved in BN6.

The entire game BN6 was killed from the beginning. I mean he moves away and Wiley comes back after being practically killed. I mean even the thing in BN$ and BN5 where Dr. Regal Wiley's son comes to get revenge is pretty lame.

Wiley

... Megaman never, ever, featured a coyote.

Also, I remember a member named quint here before... He was a fun little flamer.

Died in about then or so posts.

Wiley isn't even the name of a coyote.

Wile E. Coyote... now that's a famous coyote.

I thought you spelled his name that way.

No E. Just Wily.

As in, Dr. Wily is a villain in the MegaMan games, and Wile E. Coyote is a failed roadrunner hunter.

I digress. MMBN4-6 were all fan-works and should be thrown away.

I digress. MMBN4-6 were all fan-works and should be thrown away.

Now you know how we feel about X5-X8, MMZ and ZX.

BUT REZ LOOOOOVES STAR FORCE.

I'm sorry, I assumed it was a given something so awful didn't even NEED to be included in that list.  THANKS FOR MAKING YOURSELF LOOK DUMB!

I'M HERE TO PLEASE!

BN2 was the best. They killed it when BN4 existed.

Oh hi, I upgraded your post. This process is irreversible.

[spoiler]The omega virus swallowed Hub and killed him, [/spoiler]

I think you mean Alpha. Which wasn't a virus.

: yuri  21 February 2008, 01:55:35

Wiley

... Megaman never, ever, featured a coyote.

I think you mean Wile E. Who was a coyote.


Those may have already been said. I'm skimming-ish as I'm beat.

Yep, I said it. Actually someone else did, but they, too, spelled Wile E. Coyote's name wrong, so I fixed it.

: Winged Warrior  22 February 2008, 00:45:59

I digress. MMBN4-6 were all fan-works and should be thrown away.

Now you know how we feel about X5-X8, MMZ and ZX.

Zero was not that bad, I mean the cyber elf stuff was, but the rest was'nt

No, it was.

Zero was not that bad, I mean the cyber elf stuff was, but the rest was'nt

I'm afraid I'm going to have to confiscate your opinion licence.  Please leave it in the middle of the mauling tent with my administrative assistant, Nibbles.  Along with your liver.

Where is the tent?

...

*Facepalm*

You think I'm dumb don't you...  cry.

Yeah a little bit.

don't you...  cry.

Don't cry xero.

You reach the mauling tent, take a trip to the wasteland, and keep going until you find several dead bodies, look for a tent... and your there!

Don't you mean, "don't cry yuri"?

No, because Yuri was telling Xello to cry, and WW told Xello not to.

all dramatic like too.

Don't you... Cry. Xero, Don't you... Cry.

I read it as "You think I'm dumb, don't you? :'("

Read it as

"You think I'm dumb. Don't you cry."

So he's telling him not to cry? ???

Yes, yuri is very sensitive around other's emotions. If a mod cried, He himself would cry...

Plus, no one ever wants to see Xero cry, thus proving yuri is one of us.






Where is that kid anyway?

Spending some 'quality time' with Nibbles in the mauling tent. Wanna watch? It's a live feed.

There's no way you can get a live feed in the mauling tent, Nibbles would've already gotten you.

yuri was most helpful in keeping Nibble's distracted while I set it up, in Therm-optics mode of course.

I read it as "You think I'm dumb, don't you? :'("

You read it correctly.

No, because Yuri was telling Xello to cry, and WW told Xello not to.

No I actually was not.

Then what DID you mean?

I think he was crying.

Like this.  *Cries*

But he did it wrong and failed at crying.

You know you're bad at posting when people bash it for the next ten or so posts.

Well EXCUSE ME PRINCESS!

UR DOING IT WRONG!

It's "excuuuuuuuuuse me, princess!"

I thought you were all joking.

It was pretty obvious it was like this;

: Kamon  26 February 2008, 21:31:31

I read it as "You think I'm dumb, don't you? :'("

You read it correctly.

Same thoughts. I can't tell if they're seriously confused or acting.

Drama Llamas....

I've only just begun playing this series this past year or so... It started out okay but now it's a little bit....

I like the manga better I must admit.

Quiet noob. JK

Quiet noob. JK

Slave.

Stop that Rama..

I mean, yuri would make a HORRIBLE slave : \

Human plunger is better.

Don't joke around like that WIND.

We all know yuri would be a human doorstop.

No no no! He's a Ziplock Baggie.

Just kidding, Yuri, I'm sure you would make a good slave.

We'll see which one he prefers, he should at least be allowed to CHOOSE his occupation.

yuri, which one would you prefer?

Slavery
unclogging toilets
stopping doors with your face
or holding frozen and disgusting foods for a long period of time

You forgot option E: All of the above.

NO. There aren't any all of the aboves in choosing your career!

You can't be a football playing astronaut firefighter for gods sake!


Well, you can. But it'd be too much of a hassle.

If he was a slave then he would have to do whatever I told him to do, and therefore he would have to do all of them. So he could very well do all of the above.

If he were a slave he would not excel at any of the given choices, he'd be pretty bad at it. So I suggest he get his diploma for the other 3 and THEN go for slavery. He would make a much better slave.

What are you talking about? Slaves excelled at all areas, if not they'd be killed.

Or traded.

"My slave is a shiny!"
"I'll trade him for your first edition slave!"

: yuri  28 February 2008, 20:09:23

Quiet noob. JK

Slave.

I actually am black don't say that crap.

*rolls eyes*

Or traded.

"My slave is a shiny!"
"I'll trade him for your first edition slave!"

My slave has a special item, so he'll evolve when traded.
Trade back after, k?

What are you talking about? Slaves excelled at all areas, if not they'd be killed.

They could always be better!

I actually am black don't say that crap.

That's right, all slaves ever have been black.

>_>

<_<

>_<!!!

Seriously let's drop it ok.

: ASR   2 March 2008, 01:29:35

Or traded.

"My slave is a shiny!"
"I'll trade him for your first edition slave!"

My slave has a special item, so he'll evolve when traded.
Trade back after, k?

I have blue eyes white people.

But those can't be sold or traded, apparently.

: yuri   2 March 2008, 03:00:40

I actually am black don't say that crap.

That's right, all slaves ever have been black.

That's exactly what I was thinking.



Actually, those tanned people from that place in Africa with all the triangular buildings had slaves well before those light skinned European and euro-associated people ever did. A lot of people seem to forget that...

This is bringing back horrible memories.

Yuri, get over it, no one's offending anyone and you're just overreacting.

Every race as been enslaved by another at some point in history.

In any event, I didn't mean to offend you, the slave comment was just for giggles.

You guys really don't get a joke. I'm not over reacting because I'm messing around.

You have no sense of humour if you think you're funny at all.

I can't imagine being you.

Every race as been enslaved by another at some point in history.

Nooooot.... reaaaallllllyyyyy.....

You're pretty bad at it.

I've laughed harder watching Seinfeld.

It's hard to tell online when someone is messing around or if they are genuinely upset. Online, you can't read someones body language all you can rely on is what they wrote and how they wrote it.

 

You have no sense of humour if you think you're funny at all.

I can't imagine being you.

: Rama Olendris   3 March 2008, 21:37:34

Every race as been enslaved by another at some point in history.

Nooooot.... reaaaallllllyyyyy.....

 Not that slave comment, the first one.  :(

I've laughed harder watching Seinfeld.

Well, duh, Seinfeld is #####ing hilarious.

Me watching a Seinfeld marathon:

You'll understand the jokes when you grow up.

I think Yuri should tag his jokes </joke>

I think </joke> is a good idea </sarcasm> </notsarcasm> </wtf>

We had an argument with a guy in my class whether or not Seinfeld is funny. Basically 7 people against 1, because the show is incredible. This guy Dan is about as big a fan of it as I am, which is pretty big, and he basically ended it by telling the guy (who is also named Dan) "No you're right Dan, 50 million people are wrong."

I never found Seinfield funny.  I don't dislike it, but I never had any desire to watch it and when it's on I change the channel.

We had an argument with a guy in my class whether or not Seinfeld is funny. Basically 7 people against 1, because the show is incredible. This guy Dan is about as big a fan of it as I am, which is pretty big, and he basically ended it by telling the guy (who is also named Dan) "No you're right Dan, 50 million people are wrong."

That's kind of a poor closing statement. I mean, American Idol has staggeringly high ratings for how awful it is.

America, as a whole, is stupid.  Very stupid.  Look who got into office TWICE.

Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, Grant, Cleveland, Wilson, Eisenhower, Reagan, Clinton, Washington

Am I forgetting anyone worth mentioning?

Teddy Roosevelt.

I have an explanation for that.

Warning. Under the spoiler tag is a JOKE.
If you are easily offended, don't click da button.

[spoiler]
(http://www.theexcuse.com/images/funny-jesusland-shirt.gif)
[/spoiler]

*EDIT*

What the ##### is this topic doing way over here?!

Get back to bashing battle network!

I CLICK THE BUTTON AND NOTHING HAPPENS

*continues clicking*

There's an image tag that is apparently not working for some reason.

: Mikero   4 March 2008, 03:57:01

We had an argument with a guy in my class whether or not Seinfeld is funny. Basically 7 people against 1, because the show is incredible. This guy Dan is about as big a fan of it as I am, which is pretty big, and he basically ended it by telling the guy (who is also named Dan) "No you're right Dan, 50 million people are wrong."

That's kind of a poor closing statement. I mean, American Idol has staggeringly high ratings for how awful it is.

Good point but at least Seinfeld is worldwide accepted as hilarrr.

I CLICK THE BUTTON AND NOTHING HAPPENS

*continues clicking*

... They deleted the image.

Search for "jesus land, united states of Canada"

The image wasn't deleted. If you put in the url it works fine. It works when I try to do it so I don't know what's wrong with the tagging.

1. Not bad, Room to improve
2. A little better, still needed something
3. Freaking Amazing, best of the series
4. I vomited
5. Wasnt as bad as 4, still vomit worthy
6. Not as bad as 5 but it was still terrible

1. Not bad, Room to improve
2. A little better, still needed something
3. Freaking Amazing, best of the series
4. I vomited
5. Wasnt as bad as 4, still vomit worthy
6. Not as bad as 5 but it was still terrible

Pretty close.

1. Good, but lots of room to improve
2. Absolutely fablous, best in the series
3. Very good game, but not quite up to par with 2, new chip/folder limitations and poor PAs hurt game
4. Absolute garbage, on par with X7 as one of the worst games in Mega Man history
5. Terrible game
6. Less Terrible, but still garbage.

Rez got it right. And I'll have to agree with BN3 having poor PAs... nothing ever beats the stuff from BN2 like Gater and such.

I still choose BN3 as a personal favorite, but I would nod to Rez's list to be accurate.

I mean, Battle Network 2 was delicious from front to back.

In my case, 'is'. Picked it up two days ago from the GBA locker at my local EB, and I must admit to being totally enthralled. For years I ridiculed the BN series on principle without actually playing it, but I really had no idea what I was missing :S

dont get your hopes up for anything over #3

Seriously? I was planning on buying 10 copies of each version of Battle Network 4!!

lol, i must condemn anyone to Battle Network hell who actually liked 4-6

oh noes... Please don't do that. I don't know if anyone could survive Hades Isle.</sarcasm>

lol

ya know what... in MMBN5's different navi use levels, you use all these random turds, but you never get to use Megamans actual FRIENDS

After what I saw in BN4 I wouldn't be Megaman or Lan's friend if he paid me a billion zenny.

I wrote a huge paragraph but it got deleted cuz i forgot to re-sign in..so ima just sum it up ina  nutshell

1. pretty good, but roads chips and graphics were a bit off. 6/10
2. amazing. best in series. Everything about it was good, graphics, sprites, plot, style changes, chips, PAs, bosses, etc. BN2 has it all. 11/10
3. Also good like bn2. just a few minor setbacks. kind of a predictable game, especailly at the n1. seom weird chips were put in mega class, even though the mega/giga secitons sorta helped. Chips were just as good here, and Pa's werent AS great, but still good. Overall, 8/10

4. Hm, if bn 4 were a person, i'd slap it, stab it multiple times, shoot it witha  bazooka, soak it in liquid nitrogen, light it on fire, drive a spear through it, and throw it offa  cliff (making sure it hits bn5 on the way down). sucked. chips sucked. net was horrible. sprites were horrible. They guy who took over mmbn was a douchebag. pa's stunk, and SOULD UNISONS.  i have 3 words for those. W.T.F. 1/10
5. Also sucky, pretty much the same except .005 points better than bn4. liberation misssions were totally unnescesary...and u only faced liek two bosses. the onyl good thing that got the 0.005 is your able to control other navis 1.005/10
6. I dont think this is that bad, except for the whole Ex/Sp navi thing. Thats kinda dumb. Crosses were a lazy ass failed attmpt to imitate in soem oddball way style changes. the game was way too easy and predictable, and every pa did like 900 damage. chips were alright. enemies, and net was good. plot was ok. 7/10

I'm not gonna try and fix that.  But from what I read, he's seems on track.  I'm starting to not hate you as much.

I'm not gonna try and fix that.  But from what I read, he's seems on track.  I'm starting to not hate you as much.

good to know...real quick why did u hate me in the first place?

Your grammar and spelling skills are deplorable.

As is your assessment of BN6.

Souls were way better than Styles. A single battle can have multiple Souls per MegaMan.EXE, & allowed for greater folder customization beyond "lol Life Sword, Area Steal, & Poison Pharaoh". I loved 3. It was great to play alongside a friend, but 4 was even better. Multiple versions are great if you have friends. People that hate the multiple versions are clearly playing the games antisocially.

First of all, souls are definitely worse than styles, considering that styles were given to you based on how you used your chips.  And you got more than one besides your normal style.  And they were ALWAYS there in battle.  With souls, you only had three turns per battle to use one, limited number of times to use different souls per battle, and took up one of the five chip slots to use one.  And a lot of the time, you never even used the soul unless you forced yourself to customize a folder for one.  Like I'm sure everyone made a sword folder for ProtoSoul.  AND in BN4, you had to play through the game three damn times to get all six.  That's nine #####ing useless tournaments.  I don't know how I managed to play through the same damned plot three times without losing my patience.  That damned chef mission pissed me the hell off when I played through it all three times.

BN4 sucked. All it did besides attract the "i watch the anime wit teh turnament lawlz" crowd of fans was give the series a bad name amongst the more noble fans.  BN3 had an actual plot besides an occasional visit from the main antagonist.  Not to mention that it had a challenge to it.  And as for multiplayer, THEY'RE BASICALLY ALL THE SAME.

XJ, I wouldn't be surprised if Pluvius was joking.

He better pray to the gods that he was.

Pluvius serves as a nice substitution for BN4 in my horribly violent description of what what i would to bn4 if it were a person. So plu, my friend, which are you? Blue Moon or Red Sun? hm?

One would assume he is neither a blue moon or a red sun. They abhor using the internet.

i didnt like the series a whole lot til the last 3, i know, weird
but 5 was great, loved it because of its liberation battles, it really gave a new element and it was fun and took skill
6 had a great plot, it was amazingly fun, i loved the beast crosses and beast mode and all, added another great element to the games battles system
first 3 were all too similar... the way the overworld looked was just... awkward...
but i liked 5 and 6 best, they had most in them, more originality, they were diferent than the others.

i didnt like the series a whole lot til the last 3, i know, weird

WAT

You just summed up the expressions of pretty much everybody there.

I like how he said the first 3 were too similar.

It's the same with 4-6, except they're similar in terms of #####tyness.

: Croanicen   6 August 2008, 18:06:11

i didnt like the series a whole lot til the last 3, i know, weird

WAT

I know. Weird.

: Croanicen   6 August 2008, 18:06:11

i didnt like the series a whole lot til the last 3, i know, weird

WAT

I literally quoted Metal Gear Awesome when I read that post.

"Wait a second what What WHAT!?"

I did a double-take, myself.  I checked the URL to make sure I was on the right site.

Anyway, as long as we're evaluating the games:

1: Setup.  Like all the first games of each Megaman series, there were balance issues.  Way too easy, but fun to play.

2: Excellent.  We get a glimpse of just how evil this Megaverse's Wily can be, and Styles were added.  The Library also saw a much-needed revamp, and the PAs were great.

3: Aw, damn, I already used "excellent".  Well, how about incredible?  Styles are expanded, but not by too much (2, 1 per version), the Navi Customizer is added for even MORE customization.  As for story, we get loads and loads of character development (plus we get to see Lan physically attack someone, which is quite rare).  This game holds my personal favorite final boss and chipset. (Though favorite PA set goes to 2)

4: ...Capcom, what the hell?  Styles traded out for Souls.  Chips NERFED.  I didn't mind the idea of DarkSoul or DarkChips.  I even liked the idea a little, and I think it'd have been great if they'd applied the Karma Meter system to the Style Change system.  (Light WoodShield?  Dark HeatBug?  Neutral ElecCustom?  (insert other random style combo here))  But they didn't.  And the game sucked.  The highlight of the game was (potentially) Raika belting Lan. -_-

5: A step up, but very, very tiny.  Playing as other Navis was a plus, and I enjoyed Liberations, but the chipset was HORRIBLE.  We still had Souls, and DarkChips were messed up (and they came from a messed up game to begin with!).  Due to the horrid chipset, the game's difficulty was ridiculously high, higher even than MM1 once you got post-game.  Again, the highlight for this game is violence involving Lan - he hits Chaud/Baryl. (depending on game version)

6: MAJOR step up, but too little, too late.  Souls replaced with Crosses, which attempt to combine Souls and Styles, but Capcom missed the point - what made Styles great is that they were tailored somewhat to your chip preferences.  Bringing a degree of permanence to the Souls and getting rid of the "sacrifice a chip" rule were good moves, but not good enough.  Chipset showed signs of trying to return to BN2/3 caliber, but ended up with a pathetic version closer to BN1's chipset than anything else.  Oh, and do you want to know what they do to the most evil incarnation of Wily ever?  The Wily that took advantage of an orphan to cover for his return, tricked an environmentalist into thinking he was too, with a stream of toxic waste being dumped into the ocean right outside, played with Bass's mind and succeeded?  They converted him to good!  I have a penchant for turning villains good, but I swore I would never do this for this particular Wily.  And CAPCOM does it!

...In conclusion, Capcom lost their #####ing minds after BN3.

To sum up Cherry's post:

1-3: Yeah boi!
4-6: fartfartfartfartBUM!

Ha... Yeah, I sorta degenerated into a ranting wall of text starting at 4.

You forgot to mention in 4 that you have to play through the game 3 times just to get all the #####ty souls.

And yeah, Styles beat souls ANY day, you got styles depending on how you battled, if you used your buster alot you'd get Guts Style, if you used Navi Chips alot, you got Team Style and etc. Souls just give you some boost in one chip element for 3 turns only once a battle AND you have a sacrifice a chip to even get to use it.

I really did like styles a lot more. It was a lot more fit to peoples play style which I'm sure would've kicked ass for online. Me and my friend would link our GBAs at school and battle it out. We played BN 3 way more than 4 just because the styles were so much more fun.

Styles offered a lot more flexibility and uses than Souls did. You even got new Navi Customiser Programs by levelling up the Styles, giving you a reason to use them often and switch your playing style. With Souls, there was no real incentive to use them more than once.

You had to gimp your folder to use Souls (add the right #####ing element/type to even ACTIVATE it) and you couldn't set it as your regular chip, so getting the soul was random.  You STARTED battle in style and kept it the entire fight.

Souls were more in the spirit, but failed wholy and utterly in gameplay compared to styles.

Souls pretty much sucked.  It kind of hindered your folder-building as well, knowing that you'd have to sacrifice a chip for one.  I liked Crosses though, all the power of souls right off the custom menu.  They lasted forever too, unless you were hit with the right counter element.

Souls were dumb, yes. It was their way of adding another "get the enemies weapon" element to this MegaMan series. Styles worked just fine, and chips as well.

Styles worked just fine, and chips as well.

Erm... Chips?  What are you talking about? ???

CHIPPOS YOU CHUMP!!
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6922/chipposfinle3.jpg)

I'm talking about battle chips, they had elements and there were character chips too. Which is pretty much exactly like getting their weapon and using it.

Oh, my bad.  It's just that you were talking about styles and souls; I kinda got thrown off there.

Network Transmission had an interesting way of doing that.  For example, killing Elecman with a moderate busting level would give you a Thunder Beam chip, while S-9 ranking him gave you his regular Navichip.  That was pretty interesting.

It WAS interesting, but they make the game's difficulty too... high.

I mean, your buster did absolutely nothing, it would take like 20 shots to kill a Mettaur. You have chips, but in the beginning each only has like 5 uses.

I liked the idea of the game, but they really should've made your buster actually usable in the beginning.

CHIPPOS YOU CHUMP!!
(http://www.angelfire.com/il2/illiterature/simpsons/stickers/Chippos_FIN.jpg)

I'm talking about battle chips, they had elements and there were character chips too. Which is pretty much exactly like getting their weapon and using it.

Why don't you EVER upload the images somewhere instead of hot-linking them? Seriously, I want to see the picture and you're being a butt.

'Cause I'm a hot linking whore! WHOOOO!

It WAS interesting, but they make the game's difficulty too... high.

I mean, your buster did absolutely nothing, it would take like 20 shots to kill a Mettaur. You have chips, but in the beginning each only has like 5 uses.

I liked the idea of the game, but they really should've made your buster actually usable in the beginning.

*Thinks about Gutsman's difficulty in that game and shudders*  Yeah, I hated that.  Not to mention those dreaded beams in Quickman's stage.  Plus I think you actually needed Invis chips to avoid some of Protoman's moves.  High difficulty indeed.

From what I tried MMBN for the Wonder Swan was much better.

Uhf. No one should ever say "my bad".

I hate that too.