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I'm feeling a little lost lately, and this is odd because I consider myself to be fairly knowledgeable when it comes to the Megaman games however now I'm not so sure.

I've played about half of the X games in English and the other half in Japanese and the way how both of sides define Maverick is a little bit different but very close... And then (yes shoot me for referencing the Zero series) the definition changes again... What I want to know is what is truly is to be a 'maverick'/irregular.  Is there a set definition?

As far as I know Maverick=Reploid who breaks the first rule of robotics (Don't hurt humans)
Then again, I've never played any Megaman game on japanese, so I don't know this different definition...

As far as I know Maverick=Reploid who breaks the first rule of robotics (Don't hurt humans)
Then again, I've never played any Megaman game on japanese, so I don't know this different definition...

I thought it was primarily that, but then I read somewhere (forgot which game) that a Maverick was a reploid that went against its original programming- in other words if the reploid refused to do something it was programmed to do, it was maverick. At least that's what the whole statement inferred.

in other words if the reploid refused to do something it was programmed to do, it was maverick. At least that's what the whole statement inferred.

That makes no sense, as the entire idea behind Reploids is that they possess free will and self-awareness, and thus would not be 'programmed' to do anything.

A maverick technically is someone who goes against a group of sorts.

I feel the term "Maverick"  in the MMX world needs to be redefined.

Since there are "mavericks" such as Repliforce and the Rebellion Army who have no intention to cause harm to humans and only which to seek independence.  See the thing is that they aren't really mavericks.  They are just reploids who felt oppressed and decided to declare independence.  But they were hunted and terminated for their ideals which I felt was over doing it.

Yeah, I think it's to do with taking their free will too far.

Xello beat me to the X4 rebellion bit.

Plus those assholes killed off the best character.  EVAR.

*Weeps for Iris*

WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOUBLE!

I was thinking that it was Reploids taking their free will 'too far' according to humanity until the X4 stuff and the things in the Zero series. It just baffles me... I suppose the term 'maverick' is flung to try and control reploids?

If reploids have free will then no one should be trying to control them period.

Reploids like humans have the right to choose their own destiny and make their own path in life. 

If reploids have free will then no one should be trying to control them period.

Reploids like humans have the right to choose their own destiny and make their own path in life. 

I agree that they should have that right... However examine Human history and you'll see that we've only just barely been able to address total 'freedom' recently... and even now it's not totally perfected.

What I'm saying is that reploids should be subjected to the same abilities as humans. 

What I'm saying is that reploids should be subjected to the same abilities as humans. 

They should... But I think the series infers that they don't... Ugh! See! I'm confused! >.<!!!

It's like this.

Dr.Cain:  Oh cool!  Let's create reploids with the ability to think and make their own decisions and force them to do labor!  It's genious!

Yeah...exactly like that.

And then Sigma dropped a nuke on him.

It's like this.

Dr.Cain:  Oh cool!  Let's create reploids with the ability to think and make their own decisions and force them to do labor!  It's genious!

Yeah...exactly like that.

I got that down, Reploids created for the purpose to aid humans... Because I highly doubt humans are -that- charitable and decided to capriciously create a new race and not have them have any use. So Reploids were 'copied' off of X for their abilities.

Now with their abilities most obviously helped humans in... whatever they needed help in, then some went Maverick (by hurting humans, rebelling against 'you must do this' or contracting the Maverick virus) then the Maverick Hunters were created blah blah blah....

...

Then Lumine said 'blah blah we have the power to go Maverick at will.' in X8 which sounds like all the instances where reploids were Maverick they were infected with the Maverick Virus.

I'm sorry for rambling.... I'm just trying to figure this out.

Lumine lived under a rock. Ignore him.

Lumine lived under a rock. Ignore him.

Kinda hard to ignore someone with no eyebrows man...

God damn it, the only good thing to come out of X8 was Flaming Cock.

I didn't think it was -that- bad.... I hated the navigators, but that's about it. Lumine just freaked me out.

I hated Lumine. And DNA reploids.

Android DNA is dumb.

I hated Lumine. And DNA reploids.

Android DNA is dumb.

But not quite inaccurate, actually. And we're getting off topic. 

Nah, I'd say we're right on track.

You're a Maverick, WIND.

...

BURN! BURN TO THE GROUND!

 :o I need a license to do that here in America... sorry. 

WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOUBLE!

Eiuuuuuughhhhnnnworstreploide vergngggnnnnngggg!

::embolism pops in brain::

*Weeps for Iris*

WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRR!?!??! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZPDeAmT5hks&feature=related)

YouTube really has made people very confused about what's funny.

Ew.

What a waste of time.

YouTube really has made people very confused about what's funny.

It is offensive to comedy, really.

YouTube really has made people very confused about what's funny.

One of my favorite casual statements ever. Good man.

: Xero  28 February 2008, 18:29:50

*Weeps for Iris*

WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRR!?!??! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZPDeAmT5hks&feature=related)

... The hell?  ???

Don't question why someone would make that, it could lead to your death by stroke.

Too late, I've already spent more than 10 hours looking up stuff on ytmnd.com.

It's amazing you have turned yet.

And then Sigma dropped a nuke on him.

Oh yes, the "new" canon.  BOY THAT SURE IS SOME GOOD STUFF GEEHOWDY NOW I'M GOING TO GO PLAY SOME MMZ AND ZX TO FULLY ENJOY THE FINELY CRAFTED AND INTRICATE LITERARY SECOND COMMING OF INTI'S SERIES SPANNING MEGAMAN TALE OF PURE AWESOME!

Great #####ing going....you broked the sarcasm detector.

I used up 3 months allowance of sarcasm on that post too.

Yeah, my allowance.

Mavericks are reploids who like to play cards.
(http://home10.highway.ne.jp/funnychu/movie_Maverick.jpg)

weres sigma

rate here idiot

I was gonna say that was Zero with his/her blonde hair and all BUT YOU RUINED IT

You're just mad because you KNOW you wanna hit that.

DON'T deface Jodie Foster, you pierick.

Am I the only one who thought that lamp was a bong at first glance?

Am I the only one who thought that lamp was a bong at first glance?

Now we know what's on your mind. >.> I think you may have been the first one to think that...

I'm sure I wasn't the first.

And yes, that is on my mind. Spring break is closing in, and I could use a vacation.

I'm sure I wasn't the first.

And yes, that is on my mind. Spring break is closing in, and I could use a vacation.

Indeed.

I thought it was too, and that's not even my sort of deal.

Being a Maverick means you play for a professional basketball team in Dallas, Texas.

And that you're not having the best games lately.

But....Nevertheless, you are still making 2.1 million dollars a year.

Yes but you're no Boston Celtic.
















:-)

Doesn't maverick just mean (simply put) that you're a reploid who's been infected with the maverick virus?

(And the Celtics lost to the Utah Jazz in a movie once, so there!)

It basically means to be a rebel. Reploids were intended to work for humans and/or live in peace with them. Mavericks do the opposite, and they can do it by their own choice. Reploids have the ability to choose to obey or disobey humans. Being a maverick isn't necessarily the cause of the Maverick virus.

My theory is that the definition STARTED as "A Reploid infected with the Maverick Virus", but mutated, possibly at the government level, to include "Any Reploid who opposes the current state of things."

My theory is that the definition STARTED as "A Reploid infected with the Maverick Virus", but mutated, possibly at the government level, to include "Any Reploid who opposes the current state of things."

That's what I was getting the impression of lately. I first thought it was just "Reploid infection" or "reploids killing humans" but now maybe it's more of 'reploid not obeying humans'. 

The Maverick virus is probably just an assumption made by androids who think too logically. They probably assume any android that disobeys programming has gone wrong.

Maverick was originally used to describe Reploids who went berserk due to technical issues.  However, as the full scope of giving Reploids free will became aparent (what kind of idiots didn't see that comming?) it was more widely applied to Reploids who chose to cause harm to others.  As reploid technology evolved, mechanical failure became far more rare and the term is generally the Reploid equilivant of "criminal" now.

TIME FOR MEGA MAN AND THE ROBO POLICE TO GET TO WORK!

Maverick was originally used to describe Reploids who went berserk due to technical issues.  However, as the full scope of giving Reploids free will became aparent (what kind of idiots didn't see that comming?) it was more widely applied to Reploids who chose to cause harm to others.  As reploid technology evolved, mechanical failure became far more rare and the term is generally the Reploid equilivant of "criminal" now.

TIME FOR MEGA MAN AND THE ROBO POLICE TO GET TO WORK!

Best answer yet- that makes more sense.

It gets confusing/frustrating for me because I played about one half in Japanese and the other in English and the translations blur and sometimes I can't remember which language the translation in my mind belong. Fortunately I'm playing through all the games in their English translations and things are becoming more clear. Some might think the translations are equivalent- however there are slight differences through implications and language that were lost in translation.  :(

When I was younger I never even paid any attention to the story at all.

When I was younger I never even paid any attention to the story at all.

I think we all did at one point- I did. Now I can't touch a game without knowing background information. I think I'm the only one in my family and friends who actually -reads- through the game booklet before playing.

I read the game booklet... sometime after playing for a long amount of time.

: ASR   7 April 2008, 22:28:10

When I was younger I never even paid any attention to the story at all.

I think we all did at one point- I did. Now I can't touch a game without knowing background information. I think I'm the only one in my family and friends who actually -reads- through the game booklet before playing.

I tend to read it first.
I hate looking in the booklet after like a week and finding that there were like 5 things I didn't even know about.

It helped to know you could pop the Wii-mote to make the Morph Ball jump in Metroid Prime 3, which was never explained in-game, only in the manual.

Yeah, imagine the frustration of trying to make those damned double-jumps with only bombs :S

I never make it a point to read the booklet but I do at times.

It helped to know you could pop the Wii-mote to make the Morph Ball jump in Metroid Prime 3, which was never explained in-game, only in the manual.

Yeah but you were playing Metroid Prime 3, which is what should really be explained.

Yeah but you were playing Metroid Prime 3, which is what should really be explained.

OH SNAP!  Get that kid a wet blanket he got BURNED.

Whether or not it's a true Metroid game, which seems to be the debate around here, it was a very good game and I enjoyed it quite a bit, you bitter poopfaces.

I'm not bitter, I was never a huge Metroid fan in the first place although I liked it. I'm just not into Prime.

It's your fault for associating with Rez.

It's your fault for associating with Rez.

Oh ASR, ASR, ASR...  I'm so dissappointed in.  All this time here in the hallowed blue and blue halls and you've yet to gleen any knowledge from me.  OFF TO THE MAULING TENT FOR PROFESSOR NIBBLES SEMINAR ON "DISEMBOWELING AND YOU: PUNISHMENT HURTS".   Do enjoy.

Whether or not it's a true Metroid game, which seems to be the debate around here, it was a very good game and I enjoyed it quite a bit, you bitter poopfaces.

Prime bored the crap out of me, so I don't see how it was any good personally.

Oh well. NICE GRAPHICS, I guess.

I love all Metroid games. Don't care if it's 2D or 3D, as long as I get to run around and blow up Space Pirates and Metroids. Besides, didn't Nintendo make the Prime series? If so, then they definitely are Metroid games, whether you whine about it or not.

UR OPINION SUX ~<3

Nintendo farmed out Prime.  It's not an in house game.  The fact they made it a FPS is proof enough of that.

Besides, didn't Nintendo make the Prime series? If so, then they definitely are Metroid games, whether you whine about it or not.

We are CLEARLY not talking about whether it is officially a canon Metroid series or not, smart aleck.

He's not smart.  DON'T COMPLEMENT HIM.

We are CLEARLY not talking about whether it is officially a canon Metroid series or not, smart aleck.

Watch your mouth before I staple it shut. ;)

Besides, isn't this category based off of the X series?

No.  it's now about canned ham.

Delicious, it is.

: Mikero   9 April 2008, 21:03:08

We are CLEARLY not talking about whether it is officially a canon Metroid series or not, smart aleck.

Watch your mouth before I staple it shut. ;)

Try me.

Try me.

LOL. Acting tough on the internet. Get a life, you nerd. :P

Stop with your grudges. It's bad for your health as it is unnecessary.

LOL. Acting tough on the internet. Get a life, you nerd. :P

Watch your mouth before I staple it shut. ;)

... Just sayin'.

Wow! I thought the cute lil' MegaMan smiley made it obvious that it was sarcasm! I guess some people are either blind or stupid! [/sarcasm]

Oy... I can't joke without somebody making themselves look stupid.

I knew it was sarcasm when I posted that, but I was tired too.

Also, Hahaha.

Your sig should say "Warning: I'm kind of annoying"
Try knowing what sarcasm is intended for before you use it.

Anyway we were talking about Prime THREE, which is probably the best of the three but I wouldn't know. I liked it. It was the only Metroid game I played through, and I liked it.

As for "What it Truly is to be a Maverick," I imagine it involves being a robot and attempting violent attacks on the establishment.

I don't know if he changed his signature just for me or not, because I hardly pay attention to signatures. Took me a second to see who you were pointing at.

That makes me shake my head.

In my mind, Metroid Prime games are absolutely NOTHING like the old 2D Metroid games and should never be compared, but it doesn't mean they aren't good games in their own right.

In my mind, Metroid Prime games are absolutely NOTHING like the old 2D Metroid games and should never be compared, but it doesn't mean they aren't good games in their own right.

The problem arises when idiots can't stop #####ting out their ass that Prime IS JUST LIKE the 2D games.  And believe you me, there is no short supply of said fools.

I don't see how anyone can say they're anything like the old ones, it's not even a debate.

There's some exploring, yes, and it's open world, yes, but Prime is a freaking FPS. Entirely entirely entirely different idea than a platformer. Entirely.

Oh, we have a few of those types on this very board.

I even have some friends that say that Prime is better than the 2D platformers. I reply to this with a swift swing of my palm unto their face. It annoys me that theres so many FPS fans out there that it's consuming all sorts of games, Metroid is one of those victims.

I mean, FPS is a fun genre, but.. COME ON...

I wouldn't say FPS is a fun genre, but yeah.  Changing genre then saying it's exactly the same "But in 3D" is bull##### of the highest caliber.

I still have high hopes for Dread, that easter egg in Prime 3 mentioned something about Dread, but Nintendo said it was just an easter egg and thats it..

Businesses work like that... You're the mule and they dangle a carrot in front of your nose. As long as you go after it they'll still attempt/pretend to feed you.

Except Nintendo does something worse, they dangle the delicious carrot and when you're close, they give you something else instead, and that's the rotten garbage known as Prime.

Well I'm glad I've never played it then.

Side scrolling Metroid onri!

Good game#Good metroid game.


I tried prime, I didn't like it mostly because I don't like FPSes. To those who do, it might be good, but it will never be better than 2d metroid games. Ever.

... It annoys me that theres so many FPS fans out there...

That's why most of my teachers think games=violence...

Those are some pretty ignorant/stupid teachers.

Yeah, my history teacher won't let us bring printed homework, because some dumbasses copy paste the info without reading. Maybe because he is 66 he dislikes what he is/was not used to, the guy sort of despises computers.

That's barely (if anything) has anything to do with video game related violence though, and that actually kinda makes sense. However, teachers that just assume that video games make kids want to go and bust each others brains out though need to be re-educated.

Woah, touchy and sticky subject. I had to write a paper on this.

There are some pretty ignorant/stupid people in the world.  LOTS.

Fixed for accuracy.

Speaking as an FPS fan *keeps distance from Rez* I still don't see how these games are encouraging violence. If idiots can't distinguish between the Internet and reality, that's their own damn fault, and I won't allow myself to be deprived of my online fragging fun for their sake.

: ChaosVortex  11 April 2008, 00:18:31

There are some pretty ignorant/stupid people in the world.  LOTS.

Fixed for accuracy.

I was directing it towards Slug's post, but I was thinking that same thing.

: Mikero   9 April 2008, 23:25:27

Try me.

LOL. Acting tough on the internet. Get a life, you nerd. :P

Stop with your grudges. It's bad for your health as it is unnecessary.

Mmmyeah.

You were the one acting tough and I never any "grudges", I actually have no idea what you mean by that. I wasn't serious or thinking your were either, Mr. Big. I think that much is obvious, and it was pretty clear I was playing along.