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I found this little trailer.

http://www.cubed3.com/news/10377 (http://www.cubed3.com/news/10377)

It looks like it has potential to be fun...

Hey, looks like a PROPER Wario game for once.
And... is that Captain Syrup I spy? Awesome.

Looks like those little things are the sprites from Wario World or something...

...

... doesn't look like a bad game at all, strangely. If it's as fun as Wario Land 4, it's gold.

I loved the Wario Land games. I heard about this not too long ago, it's coming out in Japan very very soon.

It looks marvelous.

As long as it's not more Wario Ware Corp.

I want more WarioWare. Badly.

What it SHOULDN'T be like is that Master of Disguise nonsense. That game was so bad I can't even stomach it.

I liked it. Mostly because it was treasure grabban' enemy smashan' fun like Wario SHOULD be.
Some minor annoyances here and there, but it was a decent adventure. Not WL or WL4 level stuff, but very playable.
It also has Terror Misu.

Unlike Wario Ware, which I find offensive.
With the exception of Mona.

I've only ever played a Wario Ware Inc. like once. And it was a bad one.

They're only good for whittling away the minutes you spend on the porcelain throne.

WarioWare was made for me. I love those games. Never played Twisted, though.

WarioWare rules, WarioLand rules, Wario rules, and I can't wait for this!

But where's Waluigi, eh?  EH?

WALUIGI IS NOT ALLOWED

Hmm...

But where's Waluigi, eh?  EH?

Maybe Nintendo will possibly make a multiplayer Wario game with Wario and Waluigi....



....actually, on second thought, that's not a good idea.

On first thought that's not a good idea.

I avoid WarioWare, I don't see the fun in them.

Wario Land is gold.

THIS MAKES ME EXCITED!!!!!

I just can't physically imagine why anyone can possibly not like WarioWare.

It's like chocolate.

I knew a kid who hated chocolate. We always made fun of him for it.

I love WarioWare too.

Especially the 9-Volt micro games. Mmm...

Anyway, the sprites in this game are hand drawn. With a pencil.

That is ace.

I just can't physically imagine why anyone can possibly not like WarioWare.

It's like chocolate.

I knew a kid who hated chocolate. We always made fun of him for it.

It's not Wario.
It's a collection of barely-interesting mini-games strung together in a series of illogical events with an established character jammed in to make people buy it.

It can be fun, but it tries way too hard at times. The mini-games do usually have the Wario level of absurdity.

Did I mention there's Mona?

Exactly. I played them and It's just a bunch of simple action games crammed together at a high speed. STOP THE TIMER. DODGE THE TRUCK. DO SOMETHING ABSURD REALLY FAST.

Wario Land 4 is sadly the only real Wario game I've ever played, next to Wario World. Wario World was alright, not as fun.

Graphically and gameplay-wise, this game is gonna be a blast.

Oh, yeeeeah.
The original Wario Land is awesome, II is bearable but III is kind of a snore.

It's all worth a solid play, though, especially the first one.

I'd pick up Wario Land 4 now had it not been stolen.

I still remember a lot of stuff I did in that game. That's the Wario I like.

It could be anyone, it didn't have to be Wario. It's just that his character meshed well with the game concept.

I don't see how drawn sprites are any better than sprited sprites.

Either you draw well, or you sprite well, or neither or both. If the sprites are sprited well, they'll be great. If the sprites are drawn well, they'll be great.

I might've liked WarioWare more (or rather, at all) if they'd made up a new character for it.

Mona, maybe. Probably wouldn't have sold as well.

Drawn sprites allow for a slighter higher resolution and fluidity of movement that allows a high-end graphical system to make the most out of a 2D system.
Imagine Mega Man X on the SNES.

Now imagine what could be done if the sprites were at HD resolution.
Obviously, just spriting them by MSPaint isn't going to work out so well. Drawing them does.

I also think it lends more to the style of the game.

It makes the animation more fluid and everything flows nicer, from what I've seen in the trailers.

Great example is the HD Street Fighter 2 game coming out for the 360.

Incorrect.

Ugh, I watched the trailers for that. The animation is so choppy and shoddy in general that it makes those fantastically detailed sprites a complete waste of time and quality.

Exactly.

Plus SF4 has rendered it immediately obsolete.

Here's another trailer showing off how to play Wario Land Shake It!

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14256709/wario-land-shake/videos/warioshake_070808.html (http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14256709/wario-land-shake/videos/warioshake_070808.html)
(The Japanese guy gets kind of annoying though)

That actually looks pretty cool.
I've only played Wario Land 2, so I don't really know what to expect.
I'd rather Nintendo release a new Wario Ware.
Still, I hope I'll actually have money when this reaches the states.

This game is looking better every time I hear about it.

Oh man, I'm getting a great feeling of bull##### coming with this. Me and motion controls don't work well together.

The reason I'm excited is because it looks like this game is finally doing motion controls CORRECTLY.

Drawn sprites allow for a slighter higher resolution and fluidity of movement that allows a high-end graphical system to make the most out of a 2D system.
Imagine Mega Man X on the SNES.

Now imagine what could be done if the sprites were at HD resolution.
Obviously, just spriting them by MSPaint isn't going to work out so well. Drawing them does.

I also think it lends more to the style of the game.

It makes the animation more fluid and everything flows nicer, from what I've seen in the trailers.

That might be true except that what I said about how if it's done well in either medium, it's done well. You can say that HD MMX would be better, but that's just obvious since they didn't even have to possibility to make sprites that way back then. I think in this day and age they could probably sprite something much more complicated than back then that would have great resolution.

And the fluidity of the animation is based more on how well they animate, and not the medium. I've seen incredible animations with paint. I've seen great animations with MS Paint. The fact I've seen better animations more often in the traditional pencil medium isn't important, that craft is just older and more refined.

So again what I mean is, if it's done well in either medium, it will be great. An apple is an apple, red or green or yellow.

But I'm right about the style!

Seeing that video reminded me of a lot of Super Mario and Yoshi goodness on the SNES.

This will be great!

But I'm right about the style!

Well yes and no. I mean, that depends on how they go with the style, sprited or drawn.

Whatevs, Mike. You're such a bully.

Bully: Scholarship Edition? That's a good game.

I think I found a release date for Wario Land: Shake It in case anyone is interested.

As of currently it's set to be released on September 29, 2008 in the US.
I think it's supposed to be released in Europe on September 26 under the title of
Wario Land: Shake Dimension.

I knew that for a long time.

Kirby's Super Star: Ultra for the DS is also coming out on September 29th. It seems like Nintendo expects to kill off one of their characters...

What do you mean kill off one of their characters?

Heheh, shake it.

: Chron  13 July 2008, 13:01:25

Drawn sprites allow for a slighter higher resolution and fluidity of movement that allows a high-end graphical system to make the most out of a 2D system.
Imagine Mega Man X on the SNES.

Now imagine what could be done if the sprites were at HD resolution.
Obviously, just spriting them by MSPaint isn't going to work out so well. Drawing them does.

: ASR  13 July 2008, 16:25:11

I also think it lends more to the style of the game.

It makes the animation more fluid and everything flows nicer, from what I've seen in the trailers.

That might be true except that what I said about how if it's done well in either medium, it's done well. You can say that HD MMX would be better, but that's just obvious since they didn't even have to possibility to make sprites that way back then. I think in this day and age they could probably sprite something much more complicated than back then that would have great resolution.

And the fluidity of the animation is based more on how well they animate, and not the medium. I've seen incredible animations with paint. I've seen great animations with MS Paint. The fact I've seen better animations more often in the traditional pencil medium isn't important, that craft is just older and more refined.

So again what I mean is, if it's done well in either medium, it will be great. An apple is an apple, red or green or yellow.

You can't make many fluid animations when you only have so much space for sprite data.
Technical limitations force the artists hand.
But you're the animator, so I'll let you have this one. I concede.

This game looks amazing. It's exactly what I think is needed to revive 2D gaming.