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Lol, wut?

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Wow.

OMG RUN WITH NUNCHUCK AND SWING WITH THE WII REMOTE!

I wanna die.

WAT

I already posted this...

But anyway, I was speachless. And not in a good way.

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WHY CAN'T THEY JUST LET HIM RUN AND JUMP?!

*ahem*

Hand Shadow a gun, give Sonic a sword.

I'll be in the corner playing Sonic 3 and Knuckles and crying.

At least they haven't touched Knuckles.. yet. I could care less about Tails.

They should quit while they have some kind of chance. Sonic Unleashed my boost them up, but this'll probably #####ing ruin them..

Sonic Unleashed looks just as bad with the stupid werehog crap.

Sonic Chronicles might be OK.

Since its being made by not Sega.

Still don't know if a fast being such as Sonic should be put in an RPG...

Then again, Bioware made the Knights of the Old Republic games and even though I never beat them, they were great.

Oh, right, I forgot about the were hog junk... ugh

Well at least it's sticking to a more classic style I suppose.. Sonic Chronicles doesn't interest me in the slightest, I hate everything after SA2. Sonic isn't better than MegaMan guys, don't be fooled by some silly topics out there..

Sonic's a little better than Megaman... a little bit... very small bit...

Both are low on the list now a days, though. Very low.

I'd still take Sonic 3 & Knuckles over any MegaMan game, though. Even MegaMan Legends 2.

But I'd take MegaMan Legends 3 over any new Sonic game...

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WHY CAN'T THEY JUST LET HIM RUN AND JUMP?!

*ahem*

That'd be TOO easy, Abbz.

besidz the sord is k00l liek zero 8)

Sonic the Hedgehog + Final Fantasy 7 = Sonic & The Black Night = Kill Yourself.

.... Why does Sonic need a sword?

The same reason why Mega Man needs aliens.

The same reason why Mega Man needs aliens.

Mega Man never nee- OhhHHHhh.

I imagine that sword would have the power to repel evil.

My initial rage retains its form.

WHAT IS NAKA UP TO?
DOES HE THINK THIS IS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BETTER THAN THE FIRST SONIC GAME?
Because it isn't, and nothing after Sonic 3 & Knuckles has been.

Nothing.

Didn't Yuji Naka quit Sega?

That would explain the screams of rape I hear from Sonic.

Last Naka Sonic game was that horrendous 360/PS3 one.

I've played this game. It's called The Legend Of Zelda: The Twilight Princess.

It was very good.

There's no way that'll be as cool as Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron.

It all went down the drain when they added "Chaos Control."

I like my copy of SA:DX, I like the separate stories that conclude in the end.  Not to mention that I can use the Chao garden as backup for my SA2B garden.

SA2B was fun, but they added too many things that made the rest of the series go down the #####ter.

1. Chaos control.  They made it so that Chaos Emeralds can be used to warp space and time.  I found this a nice add to the game, giving Shadow an edge over Sonic in the beginning, but when the other games came out, this eventually led to time travel, which NEVER turns out good. EVER. Even if it makes sense in the end, NEVER.

2. Shadow.  "And all the fanboys rejoiced...""
All they did was give Sonic another unnecessary rival, this time a "dark doppelganger." When everyone got excited about another hedgehog, they added YET ANOTHER ONE.  The only hedgehogs I want to see are Sonic and Metal Sonic kthx. The games could have gone in a better direction without him, but the past is unchangeable.

3. Grinding on rails.  Seriously, leave the ramps and loops please.  Grinding just gave it that "Tony Hawk" feel I'm not comfortable with.  And learning how to jump from rail to rail was annoying, especially when it meant "life or death" when it first pops up.

Yep.  They need to go back to 2D goodness quick before they lose their main audience to fantasy-lovers.

As far as story goes, SA2 added to the ##### mix. But overall I loved SA2 with a passion, the gameplay was solid. Fast paced and lots of neat tricks, not to mention spending hours in the Chao gardens.

I already said it and I'll say it again, SA2 blows SA1 out of the freakin' water IMHO.

Well, gameplay wise, I enjoyed SA1 for the fact that the Sonic/Tails stages were merely 3D versions of the classic games, loops and all.  No buttons to press, no real strategy to get to the end.  Just hold Up instead of Right to get to the end.  And I loved it.

Thats something I enjoy in 2D only, and I didn't really like the whole walking from place to place to get to stages jazz. SA2 was a simple stage select, and I love it.

ARGH! I wanna play it now! But I don't know where my DC is!

SA2 blows SA1 out of the freakin' water IMHO.

Agreed. I spent many more hours in SA2:B than SA:DX, and loved every second of it.

Of course, I'm pretty sick of it now...

You're both completely wrong and being dumb.

It all went down the drain when they added "Chaos Control."

I like my copy of SA:DX, I like the separate stories that conclude in the end.  Not to mention that I can use the Chao garden as backup for my SA2B garden.

SA2B was fun, but they added too many things that made the rest of the series go down the #####ter.

1. Chaos control.  They made it so that Chaos Emeralds can be used to warp space and time.  I found this a nice add to the game, giving Shadow an edge over Sonic in the beginning, but when the other games came out, this eventually led to time travel, which NEVER turns out good. EVER. Even if it makes sense in the end, NEVER.

2. Shadow.  "And all the fanboys rejoiced...""
All they did was give Sonic another unnecessary rival, this time a "dark doppelganger." When everyone got excited about another hedgehog, they added YET ANOTHER ONE.  The only hedgehogs I want to see are Sonic and Metal Sonic kthx. The games could have gone in a better direction without him, but the past is unchangeable.

3. Grinding on rails.  Seriously, leave the ramps and loops please.  Grinding just gave it that "Tony Hawk" feel I'm not comfortable with.  And learning how to jump from rail to rail was annoying, especially when it meant "life or death" when it first pops up.

Well I liked SA1 better too, but...

1. Nothing wrong there.
2. You forgot Amy Rose. Who may be annoying, but deserves to stay as a character.
3. It was nothing like Tony Hawk and had NO TH feel, but I understand what you mean.

And yeah, the separate stories thing is WAY better. And I thought the overworld was cool.

The levels in SA1 were alot more fun than the levels in SA2.

The Knuckles Levels weren't annoying, and the emerald radar was actually USEFUL. Tails wasn't limited to a stupid machine, and lastly you could choose which character you wanted to play as.

"Gee, I love playing as Sonic, but now I'm being FORCED to do a level for Tails and Knuckles!"

Yeah exactly. And even Sonic's levels weren't as good as before either.

And come on, SA had Super Sonic and no Shadow. CASE CLOSED.

Oh, that reminds me.

4. They turn the epic Super Sonic level into a lousy Super Sonic/Stuip Shadow "dodge and run head first into fragile part" level.  Seriously, I enjoyed SA for the fact that you had to dodge the attacks so you could keep moving foward at top speed.  And if you weren't at top speed, you couldn't damage Chaos, and you had to try again.

SA2, you only had to dodge some rocks and maybe some lasers to hit a giant swelling mass on the thing's neck. That's it.  Get close, hit it, repeat.  Nothing else to do.  Just hit it. BORING.

Yeah, SA2's final boss was easy. Whereas Perfect Chaos sometimes got pretty hard with all those tornadoes and stuff.

I guess I'm one of the few that actually liked Shadow's appearance. I liked grinding and SA2 a bit more than SA1, but yeah... there are bits of SA1 that were really fun.

Yet, that was before. I don't like what they're doing to Shadow and Sonic at all anymore.

LET'S GIVE SHADOW GUNS.

TOTALLY RANDOM UNNECESSARY HEDGEHOG GO! SILVER JOINS THE BRAWL!

WOLVERINES! SWORDS! LET'S MAKE SONIC A COWBOY IN THE NEXT ONE!

Wait wait wait.  We forgot Knuckles.  Let's make him a pirate.

I bet you all money SEGA will create another Sonic game and give some ridiculous weapon like more guns or something to Silver. Shadow will have guns and Sonic will have a sword. They'll all be in it. It'll be like X7.

GUARANTEE IT.

Sonic's had plenty of games like X7 already though, CAN IT WORSE?

Let's think.  

Shadow was the old fanboy fetish who was originally evil but good now. Zero.

Silver is the new guy that all the fanboys love now. Axl.

And Sonic's the blue guy who's been around since the beginning that everyone else is based off of. X.

...Yeah, they're pulling a Mega Man X series downfall.

When Silver falls into a spike pit, he'll make orgasm noises while rings fly everywhere.

Sonic makes me cry, and Shadow is hopeless to me now. Great job SEGA. Thanks.

And everyone else made me look down in shame.  The only exceptions are Metal Sonic and Eggman.  They're still badass bad guys who search for Chaos Emeralds to take over the world.  And I love em for it.

Sonic and the Black Knight Details (http://www.blueblur.org/2008/07/21/sonic-and-the-black-knight-nintendo-power-details/)

Honestly, it's sounding better than Sonic UNLEASHED.

Ha.  I tried to click and the bandwidth limit was exceeded.  I see nothing.

No details.

Sounds better than UNLEASHED.

Last Naka Sonic game was that horrendous 360/PS3 one.

Didn't realize that, but then I don't follow them so closely any more out of hatred.

Sonic and the Black Knight Details (http://www.blueblur.org/2008/07/21/sonic-and-the-black-knight-nintendo-power-details/)

Honestly, it's sounding better than Sonic UNLEASHED.

##### with corn in it is better than #####, but it's still just ##### with corn in it.
I don't have high hopes for this game at all.

Ha.  I tried to click and the bandwidth limit was exceeded.  I see nothing.

OK, well, here's the post from GameFAQs then:

[spoiler]
-Developed by the same people as Sonic and the Secret Rings

-”This time, a sorceress named Merlina summons Sonic to the mythical realm of King Arthur, but it seems the fabled monarch has somehow been corrupted and now rules the land as the tyranical Black Knight.”

-Uses a similar storybook device as Secret Rings

-”As Sonic runs along, a simple flick of the Wii remote will execute a basic slash, which is enough to dispatch most low-level grunts.”

-More advanced swordplay consists of the ability to thrust, parry, and even pull off a buzz-saw maneuver midjump.

-”During out demo, we saw the hedgehog leap from a high precipice, then thrust the blade into a wall to slow his decent, sparks flying impressivly as steel cut through brick”

-”Combat is integrated in such a way that most of the time you can slice through any who stand in your path without even slowing down”

-Sonic is controlled with the Control Stick.

-”Our hero begins his quest as a mere knave. Only by becoming a full-fledged knight will he have any hope of defeating King Arthur.”

-”his sword, a talking blade named Calibur, serves as a mentor”

-If you help civilian townfolk in need of assistance, you’ll earn points toward knighthood. If you smite one of those civilians, your reputation will take a hit.

-”At the end of each stage, the game tallies your good and not-so-good deeds and updates your rank accordingly.

-You can purchase items from residents. “Sonic can aquire everything from gauntlets to magical tomes to new swords, and when equipped, each article bestows him with a unique benefit.”

-About 200 items in all, with some being able to be combined with others to make new ones.

-You have the option to go online and trade items with friends.

-Rings come in burlap sacks instead of monitors.

-Sonic uses magic elementals to help him do various things, such as a bounce pad or a speed boost. They look like chao heads. The red ones give him a jump and the blue give Sonic a speed boost.

-Sonic can cross large gaps by firing a ballista and grinding the rope to the other side.

-”On the audio side, veteran composer Jen Senoue is taking a smiliar approach, injecting familiar Sonic themes with a Celtic flavor.”

-”Each stage has multiple branching paths and searching for townsfolk and treasure chests provides an element of exploration that recalls Sonic’s early Genesis days.”

-”the camera will occasionally pan to a side-scrolling perspective for a quick dose of classic 2-D action”

-SBK Bringing back the skill system from Secret Rings, but they’re trying not to have the skill system interfere with the game’s tempo this time around.

-The mission structure also returns but the developers hope to make it less arduous.

-”And there will be no dinosaur eggs!”

-”Just as they subbed in for such characters as Ali Baba and Aladdin in Sonic and the Secret Rings, a number of familiar faces will assume Arthurian personas in SBK.”

-Other characters beside Sonic are playable, but it is entirely optional to play as them.

-Knuckles, who can hold two swords at once, and Shadow have been confirmed so far.

-A new special guage will “bestow him with similarly impressive powers. The meter fills gradually whenever Sonic vanquishes an enemy or snags a purple elemental, and when it reaches a certain point you can unleash a powerful combination attack capable of tearing through multiple foes in quick succession.”

-The team knows of the faults of the recent series and are hoping to fix it with this game.
[/spoiler]

That all sounds good and promising.

But where's the Sonic game in it?

-Developed by the same people as Sonic and the Secret Rings

I sense the failure already.

I thought so too but then I read this...

-The team knows of the faults of the recent series and are hoping to fix it with this game.

... but then again, isn't that what they said with Sonic 2006?

Wait wait wait.  We forgot Knuckles.  Let's make him a pirate.

WHAT?!

Sonic's had plenty of games like X7 already though, CAN IT WORSE?

It can worse, I'm sure.

And everyone else made me look down in shame.  The only exceptions are Metal Sonic and Eggman.  They're still badass bad guys who search for Chaos Emeralds to take over the world.  And I love em for it.

*ahemknucklesrulesahem*

-Developed by the same people as Sonic and the Secret Rings

I sense the failure already.

That's all I bothered to read.

It can worse, I'm sure.

I saw it too, but shrugged.

: NovaMan XP  22 July 2008, 20:17:49

-Developed by the same people as Sonic and the Secret Rings

I sense the failure already.

That's all I bothered to read.

I just skimmed it.

At least Sonic and the Secret Rings was better than Sonic 2006.

I haven't played Sonic 2006 but I'm disagreeing with that. I utterly hated Secret Rings.

You don't want to play Sonic 2006.

I tried the demo... it's garbage.

I kinda do, but at the same time I don't. Know what I mean?

I have better things to do.

-Sonic is controlled with the Control Stick.

Made me laugh.

-Knuckles, who can hold two swords at once, and Shadow have been confirmed so far.

Makes me worried.  What weapon does Shadow have? A bow? A crossbow? A gun?

-Rings come in burlap sacks instead of monitors.

Makes me lose hope.  It's not a Sonic game without them.

Someone get a Control Stick and get these guys under control!

A crossbow would sound cool. A gun would sound ridiculous.

ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T NEED WEAPONS.

HOW CAN THE GUN SOUND RIDICULOUS, THEY ALREADY DID THAT AND IT WAS AWESOMEEEEE

guns are sweet it makes teh game moar 4 adults


Seriously, why are they replacing the monitors with #####ty bags? Might as well make Sonic orange too.

I can understand the replacement of monitors since it's supposed to be a medieval setting and technology is out-of-place, but then you've got to remember that Sonic's been doing that sort of thing for ages and quite frankly I'd feel perfectly natural if I saw a computer monitor with a yellow ring on the screen inside of an ancient Egyptian pyramid or a medieval castle.

As I said in another thread, any interdimensional travel ruins any game that incorporates it.  Time travel always screws the game up, even when it makes sense.  They replace monitors with sacks of rings to make it fit with the medieval theme.  Makes sense, but the game is ruined.  They give him a sword to let him fight bad guys because it goes with the theme.  If he can jump on a machine and destroy it, why can't he do that on out-of-date enemies? The game is ruined.

Replacing a recurring theme that everyone loves with one that's new and might attract new eyes only says, "Failure."

I just realized that this means the enemies aren't going to be robots.

Or maybe they are, and that just completely ruins the idea of burlap sacks.

They'll probably be like, magically living suits of armor and steampunk (for lack of an older style term) type robots.

I can understand the replacement of monitors since it's supposed to be a medieval setting and technology is out-of-place, but then you've got to remember that Sonic's been doing that sort of thing for ages and quite frankly I'd feel perfectly natural if I saw a computer monitor with a yellow ring on the screen inside of an ancient Egyptian pyramid or a medieval castle.

Half the levels in 3D Sonic games are pyramids or similar anyway.

Which was my point. It's nothing new, they don't suddenly need to match everything with the time period.

What I want to see is Sega follow the path of Capcom and go back to old-fashioned graphics and gameplay.  Come on, we all know someone's gonna catch the idea eventually.  Then everyone will do it, and game designers won't replace gameplay with pleasing graphics.

Yeah. THAT'S the path of Capcom.

Well, let's see.  Sega had a great game, brought about new content that wasn't bad, and is now bringing in definite non-Sonic gameplay.

Yeah, that's stage three of Capcom syndrome.

No no, I meant;

follow the path of Capcom and go back to old-fashioned graphics and gameplay. 

BUT THEY DID IT ONCE OF COURSE THEYLL DO IT AGAIN

I haven't played Sonic 2006 but I'm disagreeing with that. I utterly hated Secret Rings.

After playing 06 for about 10 hours, and having the play experience making me realize that I could make the AVGN look like a SAINT, I came to realize that Sonic and the Secret Rings deserves the praise it gets from the dozen or so remaining true Sonic fans, and X7 in comparison is like being part of a 100 woman orgy that exists soley to pleasure you for all time. I also concluded that having a terminal illness of the worst kind would likely be more enjoyable than playing 06, or being stuck in Capcom Hell where Rez resides as Supreme Satan and determines punishments based on each Staff Member's crimes against gaming. It's honestly the first game I ever played that made me feel like I lost time from my life that I'll never EVER get back again, and it's not even an MMO!

Dude, Sonic can STAND PERFECTLY FINE UPSIDE DOWN ON CIELINGS. When he's not hacking all form of existence that way and putting Spiderman to shame, he has the ability to snowboard back UP the mountains at TOP SPEED! The "Amigos", who for the past 15 or so years prior to this game could jump and DAMAGE enemies just fine, now TAKE damage for that! There's SO much wrong with that game, so much that I could rant on about, and oh man the LP on Youtube I could do about it if I bought the right stuff...

ANYWHO, yeah, new game looks like it's more of a Sonic meets Zelda and they have a bastardized Secret Rings Half Brother Sequel. As far as non robot enemies and all, Secret Rings had it where the enemies were all animated objects for the most part, or else they were just animated magic, since Sonic Team knew that fans would eat up just about anything at that point if they were playing it. Then again, since it's been shown for about 16-17 years now that Sonic can cut through so many things that far far FAR exceed simple steel armor with his spin attack, I can't wait to see what ST tosses at the fans to eat up as to why he suddenly can't tear through some real scrap this time around.

I have to skim your posts very often. Like milk.

I found it worth reading. Not exactly a wall.

It was like a full glass.

Maybe a full glass of 2% (erlack ew yuck gross barf).

Don't diss 2% milk....

Milk is good.

I'm glad I've never touched Sonic '06. I was before reading SB's post, but now even more so.

I'm still not playing this, though.
I'm one of those real Sonic fans who knew when to jump ship (and that was right after Sonic and Knuckles, kids).

And this is one of those fans that make me facepalm:

Well, we honeslty don't know if they are amazing or not.

Regardless, it won't be amazing.

*reads image closely*
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... werehog?
*face contorts into a horrible fit of rage*
THIS IS LIKE TWILIGHT PRINCESS

Yes it is...

I've played this game. It's called The Legend Of Zelda: The Twilight Princess.

It was very good.

...

Anyways...

Don't diss 2% milk....

I think I will thanks. 2% milk is for FATTIES!

Skim is where it's AT, bro. It's too good.

Ugh. Skim is disgusting.

I mean, I drink it when we're out of 2%, but... ugh. So inferior.

My dad likes it, so we always have 2% and Skim, so Skim's always been the back-up milk for me. And it'll always been the second banana.

1% skimmed. Never tried anything else.

Except for 35% before, for whip cream. Just once though, and as a joke.

1% is OK, but skim is lighter, tastier (I can see how others think others taste better, but I just like skim's taste), AND better for you! I really can't stand how thick 2% is, I don't even like the thickness of 1% really.

I keep thinking Vinch is Yubi.

It's the green hair, I bet.

Yeah and that it's attached to a woman.

I've been drinking skim for so long that I can't bear the taste of 2% any more. Any time I have to have it, it just leaves, like, a film in my mouth, and I can't get the crap out without brushing my teeth.

Exactly.

Same reason Sunny D is awful. ESPECIALLY Florida style, which seems to be the only type they have in Florida (well, ten years ago anyway).

Instead of brushing your teeth, you can try a 1-Hour Photo place. Y'know, see what's there instead of brushing it away.

What?

I hope this isn't a reference to that movie, One Hour Photo.

No, it's a reference to the film that the 2% leaves behind in my mouth.

Get it? Because it's film?

I'm not actually sure if I get it.

I mean, film, movie, har har har. I get that.

But a 1-hour photo place? They'd take a picture of the film in your mouth, and then you'd know what's "Now Playing" in your mouth the movie would probably be half over or MORE! And you'd only have a still image from it!

It's obviously been too long since anyone used a camera that used film.

Ba-da ching?

It's obviously been too long since anyone used a camera that used film.

Wow. I can't believe I didn't get it until now.

WELL THAT'S EMBARRASSING.

GOOD DAY sirs.

LET US ENJOY OUR VHS-PLAYERS AND FILM-USING CAMERAS.

YES! WE SHALL DO SO WHILE RIDE OUR STEAM POWERED VEHICLES.

NO.

HORSE-DRAWN IS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE!

Yeah and that it's attached to a woman.

...I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but its a man.

Whether or not he's serious, I think he made it clear that he thinks it looks a woman.

If I had to guess, I'd say it was a woman, too.

Ehh, I guess he kinda does with this picture.

Akira Toriyama doesn't usually draw womanly men.

He looks like Bulma.

I could tell it was supposed to be male.
Just look at the neck.

The Heroine looks exactly like Bulma, actually.

Not surprising, though.

Toriyama has as many character designs as he has fingers.

I don't think Sonic should have a sword. I think he should beat the bad guys with pure speed!!!

Hey, kid, Sonic doesn't endorse drugs!

But Sonic's his name and speed's his game!

Besides, he's never beaten anyone with pure speed.


There's jumping involved.

Well by that point in time, the jumping is involuntary.

According to Sonic, drugs are NO good.

: Mikero  26 July 2008, 16:44:12

Yeah and that it's attached to a woman.

...I'm not sure if you're serious or not

Not.

And to clear it up, I know it's a man, I don't think it really looks like a woman (if you actually just LOOK at it, it's clearly a man) but at a rather quick skim it looks like a woman, plus the dude is wearing what looks like not one but three connected tiaras.