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Atention, atention!

OK, um, I can't go to ant websites I want, thanks to my mom&dad.

1. My mom doesn't have perental control, BUT she checks my website history.

2. My dad DOES have parental control.

 >:(This is so ####-ing lame!! Is there any way I can escape this? If there is, please reply...
QUICKLY.    because i'm going freakin' crazy.

I need results NOW. Like A.S.A.P  .

kingtrickster, over and out.

Just.. delete the history.. or certain sites you don't want them to see.

OR YOU COULD NOT BE LOOKIN' AT PORNOS YOU DIRTY SKANK

You do realize you can delete your browsing history, right? Clear private data?

By parental control, do you mean actual software that's limiting what you can do?

Turn 18, that'll solve everything.

Threaten to kill yourself if they don't lay off.

Hold a knife to your wrist for effect, and don't forget to cry out "YOU'RE SUFFOCATING ME!"

I think this will work out for you.

I agree.

Edit: Site's that are blocked usually have the name of the program that's being used to block your sites.

So... you're not actually doing anything dodgy online or offline?

So where's the problem?

He listens to music his parents don't approve of, I guess.

OH, I know Kingtrickster, start wearing make-up, and tell your parents YOU'RE GAY!

I'm sure they'll lay off you then.

Wait, I just found out how to delete my history. It was right in front of me the whole time.
I'm such a dumb@$$. But what about the parental control thingy?My dad's parental control has password acess. My parents are divorced. My mom's in San Antonio and I'm with my dad in houston right now. ( h-town sucks, don't ever come here.) Do you guy's know how I can get away the parental control?

Posted on: 21 July 2008, 17:39:33

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: Lunchebox  21 July 2008, 17:26:03

He listens to music his parents don't approve of, I guess.

OH, I know Kingtrickster, start wearing make-up, and tell your parents YOU'RE GAY!

I'm sure they'll lay off you then.

You're right they don't like my music.

Posted on: 21 July 2008, 17:42:11

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: MOX  21 July 2008, 17:22:01

I agree.

Edit: Site's that are blocked usually have the name of the program that's being used to block your sites.

NAME:windows parental control




what do I do now?

Run away to join the circus.

The freak shows are very accepting.

Until you have your own computer, absolutely nothing?

If your parents are going to be monitoring your crap, they'll notice if you figure out how to disable the controls. Contrary to popular belief, parents have half a brain.

You could always use proxy sites or input the site's IP in the address bar, that's all I can say. Though if your parents are actually using a decent program to block sites then those things would be disabled too.

Contrary to popular belief, parents have half a brain.

Which is exactly why, when I was your age, if my parents didn't like the music I was listening to, I would calmly state my argument. Focus on the content of the songs being nothing but words, and something that you're mature enough to understand is wrong, so on and so forth.

Then again, I'm not sure how old you are, so I'm making assumptions regarding your maturity level.

Frankly, I think the KING TRICKSTER should be able to figure this one out himself.

Misnomer?

: Yubi Shines  21 July 2008, 17:56:45

Contrary to popular belief, parents have half a brain.

Which is exactly why, when I was your age, if my parents didn't like the music I was listening to, I would calmly state my argument. Focus on the content of the songs being nothing but words, and something that you're mature enough to understand is wrong, so on and so forth.

Then again, I'm not sure how old you are, so I'm making assumptions regarding your maturity level.

You know what they say when you assume.


Personally, I still think you should consider the fake suicide threat thing, KT (KT... Kay Tee... Katie).

It will be the best way to show your parents you're mature enough to listen to whatever garbage you listen to.

This thread is only entertaining because of Lunche's seemingly endless supply of wonderful suggestions.

OH, KATIE, NEW IDEA.

Start wearing a skirt, and say it's a kilt, despite that it's obviously not a kilt.

That'll help.

Shut up, football head!

There is absolutely no way I am going to help you disobey your parents.

Mike...
You've mutated... Into a responsible adult.
Your only options are to either kill yourself or wait for old age to do it.

Yeah, but I don't think any of use should be helpin' out this kid.
Seriously, his parents just want to keep him clean and miserable, who are we to stop them from fulfilling their parental duty?

I don't see a problem. He's kind of a dink, so preventing his parents ways should most likely shape him up.


PREVENTERS! TIME TO PREVENT!

Right. I don't care about him enough to help him out. Plus, I'm sure if they found out that he circumvented whatever rules they forced on him by finding out how to do so here, he wouldn't be allowed back here again.

Plus it's none of my business. And they could have any reason to not allow him to go around freely on the net. Like there's a guy who comes into the store who isn't allowed to look at the mature stuff, not because he's too young but because his parents say so (probably because he's slow mentally).

Does he try to wear different disguises to fool you?

No. Usually only my assistant manager ever gets him, but knows who he is so if he comes alone we know. It's not a deal of any size.

I'd try to wear different disguises to fool you.

You're not slow.








































Probably.

Back on topic, kingtrickster, I believe you can do without listening to some songs. Hell, I didn't care for music until just recently and I'm fine.

I don't understand why he's bothering to listen to them online anyway instead of just getting the mp3's. Getting the song files wouldn't show up in any browser history or anything.

Get iTunes, get an iPod, buy the songs, end of story.  If they don't like it, give them a reasonable argument.  If they don't agree, then just listen to other music.  You can't listen to only one genre of music your entire life.

People that do end up very odd. Very odd indeed.

They end up like that guy who works at Burger King with the pony tail on the back of his head AND the goatee he tries so hard to grow over the acne that covers the face only his mother can love but she doesn't because he still lives in her basement listening to Breaking Benjamin on repeat CONSTANTLY with no end.

They end up like THAT guy.

pony tail

Not pony tails or cotton tails but DUCK TALES!

AWOO-OOO!

Get a load of spyware and viruses and then point out that this is somehow part of the parental control bull##### and you couldn't do anything about it.

Guaranteed to get it removed.

It may run you $50-100 depending on local service fees to fix the second upcoming problem though. *thumbs*

Or better yet, just do the good ol' fashioned "constantly opening command prompt" program.  It eventually crashes the computer.  Just make it, replace every icon on your desktop with a shortcut to it, and tell your parents you can't fix it otherwise. It's GENIUS!

Wait. Here's one I highly suggest. It blows every other suggestion out of the water.

Ready?

Kill your parents.

Uh Chaos...

After he does that how will the parental protection thing stop working? <_<

You cut the blue wire.

Duh.

How can it be parental protection without the parents?

------al protection? Ha. That's the worst kind of protection ever, and everyone knows it.  Geez, Nova, get with the program.

Children should not disobey their parents without a decent reason. There is a reason wisdom comes with age (this is not to say all parents are wiser than children, but I doubt the opposite is true in kingtrickster's case).

Parental controls and history viewing are a little extreme, and invade the privacy that the parents themselves would have had when they were children.
It is not possible to know what your children are doing all the time, and it should not be. They should be allowed to make their own decisions and mistakes after a certain age. 15 is definitely above that.

On the other hand, the world is filled with stupid teenagers who have too much freedom.

Parental controls are a fine thing, I think, if you really want to be strict (and keep your files safe), but it needs to be backed up by a strict parent; you cannot let machines do what humans should be doing themselves.
On the other hand, viewing browser history is invasive (although this can be circumvented in some instances by the child), and is not a practice I condone.

I suspect that our topic starter's parents are divorced, and this person goes back and forth between each house.
Obviously he is a problem child, for numerous reasons we see laying about the thread.
I wouldn't have been so eager to help him.

you cannot let machines do what humans should be doing themselves.

What the devil are you talking about?

Just plunk your kid in front of the TV, switch it to some Nanalan or something and you're good to go. You don't even need to look at it anymore, all you have to do is fill its cheerios trough once in awhile!

I'm looking at you with your avatar right now.

Well, yes and no.
On one hand it seems superficially stupid. It doesn't seem important at first...

... But religion is an extremely important thing to people; conflicts in the way someone believes the world work can separate people, so it does make a lot of sense that they would separate

But that's irrelevant to the discussion.
What are you trying to look at that you need the controls off?

He's mentioned a couple times that the blocked sites are music- or art-related.

KT:

I have a few suggestions.

When your parents complain about your music, ask them to give you a song or artist in the style of music they'd like to see you interested in, and listen to it. This only works, however, if you actually listen respectfully to the music they suggest, and form an opinion based on the music they've offered, rather than you feeling like they're forcing you to not listen to yours.

Yes, you're generally old enough to be considered to "know better" than to do something because you heard it in a song, but if your parents object so much to it, then there must be something driving their opinion, too. I heartily support sitting down with each parent, and having an honest, calm heart-to-heart.

Oftentimes, parents become stricter if they feel their kids are becoming more distant, because they realize more and more that you're going to be old enough to leave them completely soon, and whether it's driven by them losing control (which is a lot less likely than some would have us think), or losing you, it's something parents have to deal with, and it's quite frankly stressful for them.

Also, you are 15. You're at an age which is considered very impressionable, and you're at a point where a lot of freedoms of choice are opening up to you. Chances are, your parents are concerned about what is influencing you, and what you are choosing to be exposed to.


Sorry if this ended up like a lecture, it wasn't intended to be. I grew up with a very close relationship with my mother, and she and I talked about things like this a lot, especially when I was trying to break away a bit and become my own adult.

I'm surprised no one has thought that MAYBE his parents don't want him listening to whatever music they don't approve of not because of the lyrical content, but because it SUCKS.

Anyway I agree with Chron, and that is why I'm not helping Katie out.

Yes, you're generally old enough to be considered to "know better" than to do something because you heard it in a song

Tell that to everyone in a G-Unit t-shirt. They are pretty much all over 14-15, and clearly stupid enough to like 50 Cent.

Just for the record, and you can choose to not say if you prefer, I'm curious as to what kind of music this is we're talking about.

>_> I never said you had to give up music in general, though.

Tell that to everyone in a G-Unit t-shirt. They are pretty much all over 14-15, and clearly stupid enough to like 50 Cent.

There are people who still like 50 Cent? Jesus, Mike, get Canada under control. I think the epidemic is more or less over across the border.

You'd be amazed, XJ.


Then again, up here, only the local gang members and homeless youth tend to listen to any (c)rap. And I do mean that C, wholeheartedly. People do listen to good rap, but they usually listen to a lot of other stuff, too.

We're predominantly "scene" (read: Emo and/or alternapop) and true indy here. We spawned Death Cab for Cutie (who are directly linked to the formation of the Postal Service), and have ties to (or direct links to) several other bands.

We also have a live music bar, but that's mostly for the 21-pluses who don't hang out at the all-hours café.


Damn. I just realized that I missed listening to the Red Elvises from across the street (of said live music bar) on the 18th. ;_;


The predominant thing usually involves dancable stuff.

Are you sure they're people? Because they could be zombies!

I say #####ing deal with it. You'll turn eighteen one of these days, and move the ##### out of their controlling household. I mean you can #####ing deal with it. Even if you can't...

Deal with it.

Once you are an adult you can do what you want. With or without the boundaries of the law. You are 15, that leaves you with three years. That gives you time to get your ##### together. If you are, as you say, 'not a problem child', then you know that you have no choice but to deal with it and learn from it, knowing that one day you may not going to approve of your child's choice in music, and only causing a fight will make things worse.


Also, if you want to ##### with your parents with extreme consequences, follow lunche's advice while listening to boy bands or pop music. start quoting songs, wear makeup, and scream randomly for the voices to shut up.

I'm 18 and I'm still living with parents.

Xero (last I checked) is 21 and he's still living with parents.

I'm 18 and personally going off to college when the school year starts, but more than a few of my friends are going to the community college around here and will still be living out of their house.

I both feel bad for them and envy them, because I both want to leave and want to stay.

The only benefit I get from my parents right now are financial ones: No bills to pay and no food to buy.

I just have insurance, school, and gas.

I bet you still have a bedtime!

I live at home because my campus is only an hour bus ride away and I don't have a career yet so I can't afford my own place (and I do mean my own, as I don't want a roommate at all but will have to have at least one).

: Mikero  22 July 2008, 22:40:19

Tell that to everyone in a G-Unit t-shirt. They are pretty much all over 14-15, and clearly stupid enough to like 50 Cent.

There are people who still like 50 Cent? Jesus, Mike, get Canada under control. I think the epidemic is more or less over across the border.

You must be dreaming.

(c)rap

That is seriously the most annoying rap commentary I keep seeing. As if one could categorize a whole genre as being crap that easily. I realize you weren't really saying all rap is bad (you'd be wrong), but still... Uhf!

I'll just stick with my classic rock kthx.

I like classic rock too, actually I love classic rock. We listen to the classic rock radio station at the CIC all day. But anyone who likes only one type of music and thinks no other genre is any good or has any good songs is either a total #####ing tool-moron, or a teenager. Probably both.

I'll stick with actual music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feHg4BUmwdU), kthx.

Joking aside, there is decent rap, but it generally must be old; pretty much everything out this century is all about defamation, defecation, and derivation. Nearly all of the content, or at least all of the immediately apparent content is filled with vulgarities, racial slurs and all varieties of naughty words linked incoherently in a horrid mockery of beat poetry.

But there is some nice stuff, and that's fine by me.
I use (c)rap to refer to Christian rap, though, because it definitely is.

I'll listen to generally anything if I like it. I don't care what genre it is, it just depends if I like it or not.

You need another high five.

I wasn't always that way, though. I used to listen to strictly classic rock. I didn't really like current popular music much.

And then suddenly I realized I liked way too much to decide WHAT I like by just saying "I like [genre] and [genre]."

Joking aside, there is decent rap, but it generally must be old; pretty much everything out this century is all about defamation, defecation, and derivation. Nearly all of the content, or at least all of the immediately apparent content is filled with vulgarities, racial slurs and all varieties of naughty words linked incoherently in a horrid mockery of beat poetry.

There is a LOT of that, yes. But there's also a lot of awesome stuff if you know where to look. Atmosphere and Shad K are wicked examples of awesome no-nonsense stuff. I mean, you're right to say MOST of it all that garbage, but it's not like there's only finite amount of great stuff from today.

And still, some of the stuff with questionable content can be good, but generally only if viewed from a certain perspective (i.e. the artist rhymes well, or has a good beat, etc.)

I'll listen to generally anything if I like it. I don't care what genre it is, it just depends if I like it or not.

Exactly.

I'm 18 and I'm still living with parents.

Xero (last I checked) is 21 and he's still living with parents.

Xero is a LOSER.

I'm nineteen and live in a different state than my parents.

I moved out a few months after 20.

My reason wasn't relevant to my mom at all.



Well, technically, it was because she couldn't afford to support me AND Ray, but that's hardly her fault.

Hey! I Just found out how to listen to my music!! All I have to do is go to youtube on yahoo and look up anything I want! Hahahahahahaha.!

Wow, you're a mother loving genius.

Such a king of tricks.

You've evolved from "misnomer" to "pathetic."

It's actually just wrong, because the name of whatever you watch on youtube should show up in the history anyway, as it is part of the page title.

Well, "misnomer" is still on his permanent record.

: ChaosVortex  23 July 2008, 20:34:24

I'm 18 and I'm still living with parents.

Xero (last I checked) is 21 and he's still living with parents.

Xero is a LOSER.

I'm nineteen and live in a different state than my parents.

Whoah, whoah, whoah, whoah, WHOAH.
Xero's only 21?
How did that happen? I'm not older than Xero. No, he's 23.

...
... that means he's just as pathetic as I am.

You're cooler though, so it evens out that you're like as cool as me.

I said last I checked. Obviously two years ago.

23 huh? Wow.

I'd shoot myself. (Sorry Xero. D:)

Chaos, what's wrong with being 23?

Nothing.

It's where you are when you're 23 is all. I do NOT want to be living with my parents when I hit 23.

Oh, I see.

Eh. I don't think there's any inherent shame in living with your parents, so long as you're not just sitting around picking your butt.

Well, there are certain circumstances where I don't feel shame applies.

If you own the house and YOU are taking care of your parent(s), then it's a totally different. I do believe around that age, you should be out of the house.

Unless, you're in need of money and shelter.

What if the person who still lives with their parents at that age does so because it's the wisest decision financially?

My brother is a full time college student, 21, and still lives in my parents basement. He works full time at Menards (##### that place, btw) and saves his paychecks to help pay off his student loans as he goes, rather than wait till he graduates and has a career.

We should all be so lucky.

I basically just graduated from university, and apparently times are tough for the computer scientist with little work experience in this area (tri-state, even) and particular time.

So currently I don't have any means of supporting myself, but I want out like mad.
So I know how your brother feels, Edge.

Edge is right, it's not as if Xero is choosing to stay there just for the heck of it, it's probably just the smartest thing for him to do at the moment.

Nothing.

It's where you are when you're 23 is all. I do NOT want to be living with my parents when I hit 23.

That is completely a matter of situation/predicament, and has nothing to do with age. It doesn't mean Xero is a loser or is even poor or unsuccessful. There's an infinite number of reasons he could still be at home.

Maybe his college/uni is close enough, and he can save money this way.
Maybe he wants to save up so he can live alone in a NICE place instead of with two random roommates in #####in' dingetown like most early 20-somethings still-in-school/careerless(for now) people.

Statements like that are why I can't stand teenagers. Everything about them is so... limited... I mean not you specifically, Chaos, but cut the ##### man. It really shows your age, and I think it makes you look rather ignorant about how much it actually takes to live on your own.

I'm about to be 22 in early August. I live at home. I work two jobs that are full days (and sometimes pick up extra days). I've been going to college full time for 3 years and am hopefully going into a fourth, which won't even be my final year, and the workload of my program has been compared to LAW SCHOOL by people IN law school. My family has never been a family of "means", so to speak, and I'm pretty much the first, second, or MAYBE third person to go to college in both sides of my family or to keep an actual career focus for this long at this age. I paid my first and third year in college myself, and got a loan for the second year that I still have to pay off. I haven't gone on a real vacation since I was 12 and I've been working since I was 14.

I think it's alright that I live at home, thanks.

A ton of my friends are still living at home for at least the first year of college and god help me if I'd hang out with LOSERS. Pssh!

Most people my age that don't live at home is because they CAN'T. It's rare to be stable enough in your early 20's to really afford what you want as your own life, nothing wrong with saving where you can.

WE DON'T ALL JUST GET CARS FOR FREE LIKE YOU SMARTALEC!

I HAVE SUPPORTING PARENTS AND I RECOGNIZE THAT

Which made the whole "angsty hate-my-parents teen" phase a bit harder, because they paid for everything I owned.

Like I said about the money bit. I'm aware of finances. At the same time, it depends on the parents too.

My parents aren't always supportive. They want me out. I want out. I'm sorry if this ticked anyone off, it's just my personal feelings is all.

I don't think I've been 100% serious/logical in my posts anyway.

EDIT: Read Mike's post fully. I wasn't calling you a loser at all man. I was even joking a bit about Xero. Chill.

Chill? I know you weren't calling me a loser, man. I specifically said I didn't mean you were like that. I really wasn't offended, just saying. I swear a lot.

Cool. Sorry, I just didn't mention some of the details listed the above. I know about financial reasons and the other junk, but I know that the majority don't want to live (or don't believe they should live) with their parents around 21.

My parents (I'd say) are about half-way supportive. They still want me out. I want out. I wouldn't be surprised if we both had parties the day I left. It all depends on way people view it too. Some people would say "Ew, you live with your parents?" but I don't care about that.

Anyway, I don't want you to think I'm a jackass or anything. I do realize that when I say somethings like "You should be gone when you're 23", I'm possibly talking about myself and not mentioning that. Sorry if I was somehow targeting "you" as in you're part of the audience.

If it makes you feel any better if someone asks if you live with your parents, just say THEY live with you.

No that's really lame.

And never thought you were talking to me personally, Chaos.

So far.

I'll tell you this one thing, king of lousy tricks: If you don't want this parental control, then you should give your parents an image of a responsible guy who respects his parents' wishes. Emphasis on respect.
If they find out you were evading their parental control then they'd be disappointed in the kid they wished to see mature into a man, this could lead you into more parental control or even something a little bit more extreme.

Know this, your parents did not do this to harm you, so even if you don't agree with it; just accept it (it's not a life-death matter) and respect their wishes. This is the best way for you to gain their respect as a mature teenager who isn't lost in the middle of real life like all other emo teenagers are.
You're in the house of those who love you most... Respecting their wishes or orders is not a shame.

Teenagers are actually allowed to think wisely, after all. So keep that in mind.
If all fails, the just kill them.

Teenagers are actually allowed to think wisely, after all.

I see three words that don't belong in the same sentence; particularly in that order.

They're ALLOWED to, they just don't, or have the capacity for it.

I wouldn't know.

I went from being a kid to being an old woman with a cane that I wave at the teenagers on my lawn.

^ Uh, that was me. It was on Wing's account for some reason.

Thats what I thought.

I don't see a difference.

I agr--

I mean, you must be mistaken, Wind. >_>

Every few years, I look back and think how stupid I used to be and how much wiser I am now. I promise you that in a few years I'll look back at myself right now and think how stupid I was, in much the same fashion.

... #####ING* TEENAGERS

*note, any and all "Wing" posts must involve one peice of vulgar language, or misspelling**.

**May contain both.

(Parental discretion is advised.)

Couldn't say.

Welcome to the internet.

EDIT: I'd say sure. I often give the benefit of the doubt. I hardly know you though.

I'm an optimistic guy and I believe everyone is good at heart, and I try not to hate anybody unless they really do something to hurt me, and of course I'd probably say "sure, you're cool," but...

...I simply don't care enough about you in any way.

I'm a pessimistic guy and I believe everyone is evil at heart, and I try not to like anybody unless they really do something to help me, and of course I'd probably say "sure, you suck," but...

...I simply don't care enough about you in any way.

We're like jigsaw pieces! You and me!

: Voulnet  28 July 2008, 00:12:09

I'll tell you this one thing, king of lousy tricks: If you don't want this parental control, then you should give your parents an image of a responsible guy who respects his parents' wishes. Emphasis on respect.

Everyone, including my parents say I'm a good guy, so uhh.. That won't be a problem.

Here's a yes -or- no question: do you guys think I'm good?

That's not the point. I'm pretty sure your parents think you're good. However, I was pointing to what you were asking, which is evading their supervision and doing things behind their back. That could lose some of the trust and respect they have for you, so you're better off living with it for now and trying to take it as a learning process.

One more thing, learn to avoid asking people about their opinions on you, it doesn't portray your personality in a good way, I'm sure you know what I mean, kid.

I could frankestein monster ASR's and JC's posts into my own thing.

But anyway, it doesn't look good that someone calls them self Kingtrickster and says their parents feel the need to supervise what they do online. That just doesn't make you look good, either way.

Yeah, KingTrickster should be like, the king of tricking peo-

Did this topic just troll us?

I just thought he was the king of turning and/or buying tricks.

: Voulnet  28 July 2008, 00:12:09

I'll tell you this one thing, king of lousy tricks: If you don't want this parental control, then you should give your parents an image of a responsible guy who respects his parents' wishes. Emphasis on respect.

Everyone, including my parents say I'm a good guy, so uhh.. That won't be a problem.

Here's a yes -or- no question: do you guys think I'm good?

No.

You're a very bad and very vain boy, and should be ashamed of yourself, you disgusting little piglet.

I think it's safe to say that every topic this annoying kingtrickster starts up will either be as annoying as it's creator or as meaningless as the war in Iraq.

As much as I agree with the last sentiment, I'm getting annoyed by people who keep bring up how they feel about the war in Iraq, regardless of how it relates to the topic at hand, when at most their opinion is based on vague impressions, and whatever someone they respect/admire has said about it at some point, or something equally random.

Mike hit the nail on the head repeatedly in this thread. Lunche too with the last post.