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It don't really matter, I'm just curious. I myself don't plan to do drugs. By the way, if you have any other answers, feel free to put them down on this poll.










Goodbye.I'm gone.

Drinking and doing drugs are majorly different things.

I don't plan on doing either because I always worried that I'd become a different person and/or lose control when getting drunk.

And I don't like drugs, plain and simple. I just want my happiness to be real, not drug-induced. That, and it saves money not to bother.

I find "Yes, To be cool" to be very baised. Same with "No that's stupid" and "Yes to make the pain go away b/c my life sucks"

There is more to social drinking than "to be cool" or "it makes the pain go away."

There is more to staying sober than "that's stupid"

Speaking of stupid, Polls should be unbiased. Yes, No, and Maybe would be FINE. Then you could be like "Tell why after you vote."


I just recently had my 21st birthday, And I am now legally able to drink. Thing being, everything "good" about getting high/drunk turn me off. Ive far too many issues that could rear their ugly heads turning a good trip bad.

This does not mean however, that I haven't made my decision uninformed. Not including campaigns in schools designed to demoralize and discourage recreational sex, drug use, and drinking. I went to lengths to relate myself to people who did do this, be they addicted or not.

I say fix the poll and do some real research... and be sure to know yourself enough before dealing anything that effects your mind, It will do you wonders to be well informed.

Drinking and doing drugs are majorly different things.

Disagreed.

Alcohol is a drug, just like marijuana, heroin, crack, or caffeine.

That being said, there are certainly varied degrees to the harmfulness of drugs. Grouping them all together in terms of harm is like compairing The Bible to Mein Kampf; After all, they're both books.

To answer the question at hand, I drank fairly heavily between the ages of 18 and 23, but left it behind after I lost interest in the social scene associated with it.

I like wine...Because my family is mostly FRANCH CANADIENNE. I limit myself though, I don't want to get hammed. I also like champagne and cocktails, ALWAYS IN MODERATION!

As for beer...Eugh, not a big fan. I can have one Guinness but that's about it...

That being said, there's nothing that irritates me more than drunkards.

[...]do some real research... and be sure to know yourself enough before dealing anything that effects your mind, It will do you wonders to be well informed.

Erowid FTMFW! (http://www.erowid.org)

"Against the drug war but not what to do about it?"

 DONATE!

That's as far as I went on the site...

... Druggies don't donate, They're too busy giggling at pulsating trees.

I voted "No, that's stupid" but I don't like the "that's stupid" part of it.

I don't care if other people drink, or do drugs, and I won't think any of less of them unless they really have a problem. I don't think it's stupid.

It's just not for me.

I'd like to get through all of college without drinking at all, just for the shock value of being able to say that. It'll be hard, but I think it'd be hilarious if I can manage that. It's the perfect embodiment of how I do insane things just for humor.

As for drugs like weed and pills and whatever else the kiddies are into nowadays, I just don't really think that's all that worth doing in the first place. Like I said, I don't care if people do it, but I don't respect them as much as somebody who doesn't need them. But I don't think LESS of them. They can earn back whatever respect they lose from me, anyway.

Cigarettes are just plain retarded and I don't get why anyone would even bother. Though, once again, I really don't care, I have no sense of smell so I could give two #####s. Even if I'm getting secondhand smoke, I can't really tell, anyway.

Anyway, here's a little bit of widsom from my life:
I started refusing the pills my parents and therapists tried to give me because if I started to act better and feel happier while on them, I wouldn't get the credit. The pills get the credit.
I want to be able to act behaved and feel happier on my own. It's all the more satisfying when you finally achieve happiness when you didn't need any help to do so.

No drugs and alcohol for me.

I have been contact high, I don't like that fact that it makes me say anything that passes through my head.
I don't like the taste of alcohol.

"Against the drug war but not what to do about it?"

 DONATE!

That's as far as I went on the site...

... Druggies don't donate, They're too busy giggling at pulsating trees.

Quite the educated opinion you have there.

I've no real interest in heavy drinking or getting drunk. I drink sparingly and on special occasions.

"I wonder what this tastes like" counts as special.

Getting drunk is not my idea of fun. A glass or two (or the relative measurement for whatever you're drinking) can be fun, but within defined limits.

Ritalin and frequent exposure to second-hand marijuana smoke have completely turned me off of non-alcohol drugs, as well as not liking to not be myself without control. (I love acting, but that is not the same kind of not being yourself.)

I'll drink wine and ales for the most part. I can't drink rum, and I like vodka, but not straight.

"I wonder what this tastes like" counts as special.

Concurred!

: Winged Warrior   9 September 2008, 23:57:05

... Druggies don't donate, They're too busy giggling at pulsating trees.

Quite the educated opinion you have there.

Sometimes humor involves using the popular stereotype. As for the site, After posting that, I dove a little deeper. I find the site to be only interesting in the point that they have spiritual methods in there too, which may be able to accompany research.

I plan to drink on Friday.

I really don't do either, there isn't any point to it and I think it's pretty immature when my peers are like "Hey!, lets go get #####faced just so we can be the kool kids!". It's so stupid. I wouldn't mind being able to have a drink or two, but the whole, getting drunk for drunks sake makes no sense. I know plenty of kids that do drugs, I don't plan on following them, I've seen what it can do to people.

Champagne is only one kind of wine.

Every beer brand tastes different, and then tastes different every different 'session' you have it. Also bottles and draught of the same kind often taste different. I can honestly say I've never had a beer that tasted like soggy cereal and mega fizzy pop. Yes, "pop".

Drinking daily would make you an alcoholic. You don't seem to know what you're talking about at all.

Anyway, I have to say that while I do drink I only do it socially and I rarely get drunk. And me drunk isn't like the stereotype of the person who's stupid-drunk. I don't know how people get that mashed, I'd definitely get sick first. Definitely. The only times I actually get drunk these days are when it's a huge thing going on and I'm distracted about how much I'm drinking. I always know when to stop though, I learned my flow quickly enough.

Yes, "pop".

THANK you.

SODA

Not POP
Not COKE
Not SODA POP

SODA

You illiterate boobs

I try to stay clear of that nonsense altogether by referring to the brand names rather than the generic label.

SOFT DRINK. SOFT DRINK.

Tell me Yubi, What's so soft about it?

 I find those bubbles to be very abrasive when someone says something funny while I'm drinking some SODA.

But this tread is about HARD drinks like Wine coolers!

Back on topic...

Wind, bring me a Fuzzy Navel.

I don't personally see the point in drinking, smoking, shooting up, sniffing, popping, etc etc.

I tried drinking and smoking but... Eh, not for me.

I actually usually just say Soda Pop. It's far better than every other variation.

I only think smoking LOOKS cool. And I don't mean people who smoke are cool, or that it'll make you cool or that it is cool or that is marketed as being cool. I mean that it looks pleasing to the eye when you see someone doing it. Sort of. I can't explain.

I agree with smoking looking cool.

I think the explanation in Thank You For Smoking had a good explanation for it.

I won't smoke, but I can agree to that statement.

Look at Snake. >.>

Haven't seen Thank You For Smoking. Looked meh.

It's actually really good. Had some great lines.

And yeah, I kind of agree with what Mike said, except it really does depend.

Like, sometimes I see people standing around campus smoking, and that doesn't look cool. They usually just look like normal people with a bad habit.

But, other times, it looks cool. Kind of like looking at a really badass picture. Like, tonight, at some party I was at, some kids were playing euchre and this one Asian guy was holding his cigarette and his cards in the same hand, and it was dark out and the light on the porch caught him just right and it looked like something out of a badass movie.

So, yeah.

Also, to be relevant: three weeks into college and I still haven't drank. Good for me!

I agree with smoking looking cool.

I can agree to that statement.

Not when Jake does it...

Smoking in general is lame, but yes, it CAN look really badass.

Cigars are cool though.

: Lunchebox  12 September 2008, 03:40:19

I agree with smoking looking cool.

: ChaosVortex  12 September 2008, 04:50:25

I can agree to that statement.

Not when Jake does it...

I guess. It's disgusting either way anyway.

 :D Oh, and there was a mess with the colors when I changed format..

That's why you save in PNG.

I feel like smoking cigars. Of course, you don't inhale those and it's a flavour thing, but I probably still won't mainly because my friends don't usually so I'd be stuck outside alone and it's starting to rain a lot and get cooler.

I have a big cigar that I'll be smoking upon passing my driving test.

I've done my fair share, partially to kill the pain of being human, and sometimes to have a good time.

I smoke two joints in the morning.

I smoke two joints at night.

I smoke two joints in the afternoon.

It makes me feel alright.

You have a problem.

You have a problem.

You have a problem.

Smoke them away.

Hard work good

and hard work fine

But first take care of head.

*is actually waiting on a phone call regarding the subject*

Shmoking weed, shmoking wizz
Doing coke, drinking beers
Drinking beers, beers, beers
Rolling fatties, shmoking blunts
Who smokes the blunts?
We smoke the blunts!

Oh god....

No more coke.

Shmoking weed, shmoking wizz
Doing coke, drinking beers
Drinking beers, beers, beers
Rolling fatties, shmoking blunts
Who smokes the blunts?
We smoke the blunts!

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
Great film.

"Rollin' blunts, and smokin' em..."
'Hey can I get a nickel bag?'
"50 bucks, little man, put that ##### in my hand. If that money doesn't show then you owe me owe me owe. My jungle love! Oh ee oh ee ee-oh! And I feel I wanna get to know ya know ya..."

Hard work good

and hard work fine

But first take care of head.

Dormouse?

Don't listen to the dormouse, he's a #####ing liar.

Always taking credit for something he never said.

I think that unfairly suggests that he said "Feed your head"

Which he didn't.

Yeah but we can't listen to him anyway so whatever.

I love that song though. Mostly because, drug trip or not, Alice in Wonderland was one of my favourite stories in the day.

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
Great film.

KEVIN SMITH MAKES FLICKS.

Another reason to pray for his bus-death.

I like his movies but I'm mad at him as a person right now.

I drink occasionally. Never more than a shot or two of hard liquor though.

I hate beer. It's the hops; can't stand bitter things. Bitter is usually the body's signal for "hey, this is spoiled, don't eat it"
Wine I can stand in small amounts. Has to be good wine. Port is nice.

Most of what I drink, as I said, are hard liquors. Rum, whiskey, gin... usually I drink it on the rocks or by itself. Tend to nurse it. Mostly because I never want to get sick drunk, and I hate being out of control of my situation (which is what alcohol does). I figure that the best way to go about not getting sick drunk is to never drink too much (although there's only so much you can do about that, I guess). My favorite is probably coconut rum or bourbon.

In college I made it through (at least the last two years at uni) with only about three or four drinks total.
Roommate had some honey Jägermeister. Absolutely delicious, let me tell you.

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As for other drugs, don't care to. It's the control issue.
I'm even like that with over-the-counter stuff (although prescription medicine I tend to trust). Never really sick that often, so it rarely comes into play.

I'll never understand the "I don't want to not be in control of myself" thing.

I've never not been in control of myself.

All substances included.

I know, saying that that's what it does without trying it is moronic.

It's like saying you wont eat because you don't want to be morbidly obese.

I used to say that. Which is exactly because I've never tried it. I thought if you did do it, you would lose all control of yourself and lose all common knowledge.

Boy, was I ever a chump back then! *takes a drag of a cigarette and a swig of whiskey*

I'm also of the firm belief that everyone should do mushrooms/LSD at least once.

I'm personally deadset against all forms of drugs and alchohol, and I honestly don't have a reason.

But at least I know that.

You don't have a reason that you know of.

Maybe the Anti-drug folks got into you at a really young age.

I'm not against drugs, but at the same time, I wouldn't do it.

Though, and I don't know why, I always wanted to play Super Mario Sunshine under something.

Not that I'm trying to pressure anyone into doing anything, but for those of you out there who are "I have no interest in doing drugs.", I'm curious as to your reason.

This is, of course, assuming you didn't try them and decide they weren't for you.

And yeah, I feel like rephrasing my post to sound more like Vinch's. I'm definitely not AGAINST drugs, I could care less if people smoke or drink and do other crazy ##### around me, I just won't do it myself.

But still, I don't actually have a reason. I guess it was just drilled into me that "drugs are bad" and for whatever #####ed up reason, I must believe it.

To be fair, it's not completely #####ed up to think they're bad.

Some of them most certainly are.

The trick is differentiating between the "good" and "bad" drugs.

I'll at least say that I hate all anti-drug commercials because they make them out to be like, the WORST possible thing you can do, when pretty much 90% of the population I've come in contact with has done an assortment of drugs and drank an assortment of alchohol.

At least with alchohol I have an okay reason. This one girl about my size  (as in, tiny) that I hang out with a lot gets totally #####faced after maybe two beers. She's obnoxious and crazy and forgets a lot the next day. I've already had to help her get to her room twice. At least she doesn't get sick.

My point is that I'm smaller than her, and I'd just have to be REALLY careful because there's no way I'm not a lightweight, too.

And I guess I have a decent reason with cigarettes, too. I figure they're unhealthy enough for me (and really, they are, and nobody can really deny that anymore) that I don't have any desire to smoke them. I figure pot is probably better to help me "feel good" if I'm going to smoke anything.

Yeah, I don't care if anyone else does them, to a point. It's just a personal thing. I feel like being "under the influence" would make me kind of a different person, judging by how I've seen some people act (same kind of deal as ASR), and despite being someone else seeming like a good thing in theory, being someone else in the same body just freaks me out.

I'm exaggerating what I mean a little, I just don't want to risk something that's generally unhealthy anyway, it's not the kind of road I would consider walking down.

I've known those types of people, but I can safely say it's all about how you chose to conduct yourself.

To quote Frank Zappa: "A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole."

I'll take your word for it, but to be honest, I'd probably have tried it anyway if I didn't have a major lack of initiative. You can imagine there are a lot of things I haven't tried doing.

I do drink a little, but in a small amount on rare days, so that hardly counts towards developing any sort of taste for alcohol.

I don't do drugs or drink because I grew up with everyone around me doing them and I wanted to be different.

My sister burns half her paycheck on weed every month.

That's... excessive.

I smoke with a fair bit of regularity, but an eighth lasts me at least a month, and only costs me sixty-five dollars.

Either she's smoking copious amounts because she's buying low grade #####, or she's one of those "I have to be high all day long" sort of people.

I have a friend who's a poster child for the latter. When he and I graduated high school, we both went into the working world when everyone else went off to college. Our second year out, he got a job working as a janitor. The place offers no benefits, crap hours, and ##### pay. He still works there. He hasn't seen a dentist in years (as evidenced by teeth that make him look like a meth-head), drinks nothing but Pepsi, and eats nothing but Jack's pepperoni pizzas. He lived with his parents up until a few months ago, at which point they kicked him out. All he does is smoke weed (he's never not high) and half-ass his work.

On the other hand, I have another friend who's the antithesis of an average pot head. He smokes with almost the same regularity as my deadbeat friend, but instead of wasting all his time, when he's high, he's really motivated. One time, while we were smoking (from a bong he made out of an air mattress pump, some sockets, and a plastic bag) he decided he was going to build a computer into his car. He started making notes regarding what he wanted to implement, and immediately started programming on his laptop. A few months later, and his car it outfitted with a home made computer system that: Operates his stereo and has preset equalizer settings for each individual MP3, interfaces with his GPS system and radar detector to recognize common radar readings and not beep OR notice new signals and log them, recognize when he's going through a residential area after quiet hours and automatically turn his sub-woofers off, log radar signals that aren't fixed (essentially making an extrapolated map of "cop hot-spots", adjust the speed of his windshield wipers in relation to the speed of his car, and turn off his music when his cellphone gets an incoming call. All homemade.

So there's the catch; being high doesn't make you lazy, it just amplifies your natural tendencies.

I WANT MY CAR TO DO THAT!

My sister burns so much money because she smoke at least once on every non-work break, and when she smokes in the evening, she does it to excess. Like, for an hour or more. Bong after bong after joint after blunt.

EDGE YOUR FRIEND IS KNIGHT RIDER

I forgot to add: this is all controlled via a 15 inch touch screen display he installed and programmed.

One time, when our landlord locked out the thermostat in our apartment (he payed the bill), my friend made this little metal box. When you plugged the box into the phone jack in his bedroom and pushed the little button, it would turn our heater on for 15 minutes (the timer was so we didn't cook the guys downstairs)

He's #####ing McGuyver.

...except he's not gay...

So then he's like Mr. T?

I think people who do stuff to 'lose control' are just looking for excuses. Or rather, using that as an excuse to be a total cock knob.

Personally, when I've had drinks I'm only more inclined to and/or make others "cut the #####" when talking.

And that's pretty badass about Edge's friend. The good one. Not the other one.

I'll never understand the "I don't want to not be in control of myself" thing.

I've never not been in control of myself.

All substances included.

It's a proven fact that alcohol blocks GABAA receptors and makes it more difficult to stop one state and enter another; which causes reckless behavior often associated with the drug. Thus, you are not in full control of your actions.
Science.

As far as other drugs go, I see no benefit in the effects.

You mention LSD. That's probably one of the few things I would try given the chance in a decent environment. No negative physical effects whatsoever, or physical addiction is associated with the drug.

On the other hand there is, arguably, a loss of direct input from sensory organs which leaves one vulnerable.
But from what I hear you're fully aware that you're under the influence of the stuff.

I think our definitions of personal control may be conflicting, but whatever.
To each his own.

It's an unfortunate fact that on both sides of my family, alcoholism is prevalent. So far only my mother and myself have refrained from drinking. My brother drinks like a fish and lives in the basement when he's 27, and my aunt died last year from an alcohol induced heart attack. Once in a while (meaning for celebration) is fine. But right now I'm really going to stay away from the bottle.

BACKSTORY!

My brother ... lives in the basement when he's 27

Where does he live when he's not 27?

In a box on 5th street.

In a box on 5th street.

That's where he's heading.

It's a proven fact that alcohol blocks GABAA receptors and makes it more difficult to stop one state and enter another; which causes reckless behavior often associated with the drug. Thus, you are not in full control of your actions.
Science.

Right.

All drugs alter the chemical interactions within your body.

That's what makes them drugs.

Following that line of logic would lead one to conclude that being sleepy removes full control of your actions. Of course, that's true; but it's also unavoidable.

My point being that "complete control" is impossible.
Personally, if I tried to be in constant control of all aspects of my life, I'd go nuts.
Sometimes it's nice to relax, but relaxation does not equal recklessness. Poor decision making, on the other hand, does.

Maybe you're just more Type A than I am?

At this point, I should also mention that, while I enjoy liquor, I think the wrong substance became socially acceptable.

I'm going to pretend you didn't use terminology from a scientifically inaccurate method of personality classification.

But you'd be right regardless.

*laughs* If I hadn't done so jokingly, I would expect you to harass me for it.

I've been trying to correct my easy-to-upset nature.
Not easy.

Smoke more weed *laughs*

I like this thread.

I like when Chron and Edge debate. I learn something sometimes.

I do, too.

Smoke more weed *laughs*

Good suggestion, and I'm being serious.

I'm a bit too paranoid in my life when sober right now to try any of that stuff. Maybe in the future but I have no aspirations to do it or not do it either way. Without having tried it, I rather think I'm the type to not have a great reaction to that and have mini freak outs or something. I think probably two or three times more than I should about everything.

I would try a hallucinogen in the right environment maybe, if only as a curious artist.

S'my opinion on it.
Said in better words, even.

I'm a bit too paranoid in my life when sober right now to try any of that stuff. Maybe in the future but I have no aspirations to do it or not do it either way. Without having tried it, I rather think I'm the type to not have a great reaction to that and have mini freak outs or something.

I'm a law enforcement major currently, so I completely understand the concept of being paranoid while high (considering every cop in this city knows me by name, and getting busted effectively ends my career). Really though, paranoia goes away once you get accustomed to being high.
Kind of like when most people get drunk the first few times, they're extra obnoxious, because they haven't learned how to handle themselves.

Also, the grade of weed you use will play a role as well. The really good stuff keeps you mellow.

I think probably two or three times more than I should about everything.

All the more reason for me to suggest it. Thinking is one of my favorite activities, and it's fun to let your mind wander while high. It's amazing the kind of ##### you'll come up with.

I would try a hallucinogen in the right environment maybe, if only as a curious artist.

I would become comfortable with lesser substances before I dove into too much else, really. Particularly stronger hallucinogens like LSD or mescaline, because if you're not properly prepared for the experience, you're not going to have a good time.

Hell, I don't even do mushrooms WITHOUT smoking copious amounts of weed. It helps with the gut-rot that the mushrooms tend to bring on, and helps mellow me out.

Of course, that's all a matter of personal taste. Everyone's experience with hallucinogens is different, and each trip can very dramatically, though it's a safe bet that it will change the way you see the world from that point forward.

If you ever do dabble in the realm of tripping, I highly recommend:
  - Picking a day when you have NOTHING else you need to do
  - Making a list of all the things you need to accomplish before you do anything, and
    taking care of them well beforehand.
  - Have someone you trust COMPLETELY keep an eye on you. I emphasize the word
    "completely" because if your trust isn't complete, you're more likely to freak out.
    Trusted friends are also much better at calming you down if you start to freak out.
  - Make sure it's a day where you're in a good mood. It's amazing what a difference that
    can make.
  - TURN YOUR CELL PHONE OFF
  - Control as many variables of your environment as possible. Nothing is worse than a surprise.
  - While this one isn't necessary, it's always fun to have other people there tripping with you.
    Sometimes just watching someone else trip balls really helps you stay grounded. *laughs*

I did LSD once...
At home...
By myself...
I had a very, VERY bad trip...
I honestly thought I was going to die...
...
I will never do strong hallucinogens again...

EDIT: Also, I seem to remember getting out my gun to defend myself from Lucy the Chinchilla...He was trying to eat my soul...

If you ever do dabble in the realm of tripping, I highly recommend:
  - Picking a day when you have NOTHING else you need to do
  - Making a list of all the things you need to accomplish before you do anything, and
    taking care of them well beforehand.
  - Have someone you trust COMPLETELY keep an eye on you. I emphasize the word
    "completely" because if your trust isn't complete, you're more likely to freak out.
    Trusted friends are also much better at calming you down if you start to freak out.
  - Make sure it's a day where you're in a good mood. It's amazing what a difference that
    can make.
  - TURN YOUR CELL PHONE OFF
  - Control as many variables of your environment as possible. Nothing is worse than a surprise.
  - While this one isn't necessary, it's always fun to have other people there tripping with you.
    Sometimes just watching someone else trip balls really helps you stay grounded. *laughs*

Almost verbatim what one of my co-workers told me about it.

Had a rather amusing story about potato people.

My friend Kevin (the one with the car computer) was totally defeated by Disney stickers while tripping once. It was #####ing hilarious.

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I did LSD once...
At home...
By myself...
I had a very, VERY bad trip...
I honestly thought I was going to die...
...
I will never do strong hallucinogens again...

EDIT: Also, I seem to remember getting out my gun to defend myself from Lucy the Chinchilla...He was trying to eat my soul...

You're either stupid, or lying.

I'm also curious why a 16 year-old owns a gun.

There has to be some sort of archive of trip stories online.
That'd be more of a timekiller than Not Always Right.

That Erowid site I posted earlier is full of them.

You have to take them with a grain of salt though, as some people are obviously just making ##### up.

You're either stupid, or lying.
I'm also curious why a 16 year-old owns a gun.

My cousin told me to do it...
So I did...
And then he left...
...
Needless to say, I will never do strong hallucinogens again...

As for the gun thing...
Where I live, it's strange for somebody to not have a gun because it's a small hunting community in upper Michigan. I had my first gun when I was 12. It was a 20-gauge shotgun...

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Y'know, I think back on it now and I wonder what the #### was wrong with my cousin.
I mean, why would he give me that #### and then just ditch out on me? Especially since it was my first time doing LSD...
I'm not really mad about it. What's in the past is in the past. It just seems very irresponsible of him...

ANOTHER MICHIGANDER?

HEY BUDDY SUP A/S/L

My cousin told me to do it...
So I did...
And then he left...
...
Needless to say, I will never do strong hallucinogens again...

As for the gun thing...
Where I live, it's strange for somebody to not have a gun because it's a small hunting community in upper Michigan. I had my first gun when I was 12. It was a 20-gauge shotgun...

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Y'know, I think back on it now and I wonder what the #### was wrong with my cousin.
I mean, why would he give me that #### and then just ditch out on me? Especially since it was my first time doing LSD...

The owning of a gun due to living in a small hunting community I believe.

Though I still think you're full of ##### regarding your trip.

Believe what you will. I'm sure as hell not going to try and stop you.
Although, it wasn't a lie.
I honestly didn't know what LSD was (mostly because I live in a sheltered community, and I was very naive), and at the time my cousin was the coolest person in the world to me, so I figured "What the hell" and did it.
I've realized over the years I was wrong about my cousin being the coolest guy. Although he has matured a lot since having a child.
Regardless though, I've lost interest in the drug scene. I haven't done drugs (of any kind) since late May or so this year, and I doubt I ever will again.
Now it just seems so...I dunno'...lame...

Also, I seem to remember getting out my gun to defend myself from Lucy the Chinchilla...He was trying to eat my soul...

This is where you lost me. Everything else was passable.

It just has that "I'm making this up to seem cool/fit in" quality to it.

I'm a bit too paranoid in my life when sober right now to try any of that stuff. Maybe in the future but I have no aspirations to do it or not do it either way. Without having tried it, I rather think I'm the type to not have a great reaction to that and have mini freak outs or something. I think probably two or three times more than I should about everything.

I would try a hallucinogen in the right environment maybe, if only as a curious artist.

Honestly, I've smoked weed before (What kid from Cali hasn't) and it just really did absolutely nothing. I get a bit chattier when I'm high, I guess, but I don't feel any better or worse.

And I've been curious about hallucinogens myself... But due to some personal reasons, I've never seriously considered trying them.

Weed has an extremely mild hallucinogen in it. Most people aren't effected unless they smoke a whole lot of it, but some people are more sensitive than others.

It mostly just mellows you out and makes you hungry, from what I hear.

Old coworker had a story where he and his buddy made some spaghetti, but used weed instead of oregano (which doesn't go in pasta sauce anyway).
It was terrible, but they ate all of it anyway.

Their mistake was using the weed directly. Instead, you cook the weed into the oil/butter (depending on what you prefer or what the recipe calls for), then strain it back out.
By heating your lipid of choice to boiling, you release the THC from the pot into the oil/butter, making the leaves (which carry most of the taste) unnecessary. That way, only minor hints of the taste remain, and you're left with spaghetti that get's you high.

The same method is used to make brownies, cookies, or just about anything else.

"Grady what'd you put in that salad?!"

"Just some wild parsley I found hangin' around!"

Also, the grade of weed you use will play a role as well. The really good stuff keeps you mellow.

Apparently, there's no need to worry about that here in Canada.

  - TURN YOUR CELL PHONE OFF

This made me laugh.

My friend Kevin (the one with the car computer) was totally defeated by Disney stickers while tripping once. It was #####ing hilarious.

This too.

On topic: Apricot ale.

That is all.

"drugs" were introduced into this topic by it's starter in the first post, so it's all been on topic.

Our subject heading just hasn't properly reflected that fact.

Hey, I didn't say you weren't.

I just said that I was.

*laughs* If our being off topic wasn't implied, then why say it at all?

Wouldn't that just be redundant?

No, I was just specifying that Apricot Ale was relevant to whether or not I planned to drink.

I guess it kind of failed, eh? x3

It wouldn't have failed if it weren't for that meddling Edge!

*snort*

Yup. It's all my fault.

The post wouldn't have carried the same message without the "On topic:"

You guys are driving me to drink!

Specified or not, apricot ale. :3

*opens a bottle and gets to work on the house*

You guys are driving me to drink!

At least we aren't drinking you to drive.

The last thing anyone wants is to have a flower drive around a bunch of intoxicated Mega Man hooligans.

I'm buzzed right now.
SO THERE, TOPIC.

Comedic.

I don't think you can really call it a problem if you quit simply because of an aversion to vomit.

Being forced to quit by people who love you; THAT'S a problem.

It's a problem but it's not "a drinking problem" per se, since that implies chronic alcohol abuse without really recognizing how much you're damaging the rest of your life. You know... Addiction.

This topic makes my brain malfunction.

If anybody does any kind of serious (illegal) drug, I doubt they would admit it, unless of course they're fully comfortable with it and haven't a care of who knows or not. Drinking isn't really a drug. It's just consumption of an alcoholic beverage, something that pretty much anybody could get a hold of these days from your local corner store. Marijuana isn't really a big of deal to me. Sure, I haven't smoked in a while, but the only thing it did to me was calm me down, get me hungry and/or tired. Sometimes horny, but we'll leave those details out.

I don't see anything great with other drugs either, like cocaine, meth, heroin, etc. Not like I've done any of that or ever want to. I've met and known people who have been under the spell or have fallen to those drugs. I've done my share of pills in high school, from the handfuls of Vicodin to a hit or two of 30mg of oxys. Had bad highs with both of them, which led to a halt in my, what you would call,"addiction". Even though I wouldn't say I was addicted, because I wasn't desperately searching for a pill to make me content. I never had to pay for one. More like a curious thing to do.

Just found out a while ago about the hype with DXM (cough syrup, basically). Supposedly makes you a big brain-dead couch potato. Nothing I would want to ever do again, nor recommend.

I'll stick with the bowl, blunt or two, and the occasional beverage, thank you.

I TAKE LSD DAILY

WHO DO YOU TAKE IT FROM

YOU THIEF

Drinking isn't really a drug.

You fail.

Drinking is just as much of a drug as any of the other items you listed; the only difference being the level of social acceptability.

Just like marijuana, I suppose? I bet there are twice as many people that use that than alcohol. Then again I have no #####ing clue. SHOW ME THE NUMBERS.

I would definitely think more people drink alchohol than people smoke weed.

If only for the reason Edge stated, that it's socially acceptable in most situations.

Well, y'know. I guess it's the whole legal deal between the two.

The wrong one of the two is legal. (http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/)

That really should be a tobacco VS marijuana thing.

Alcohol might be dangerous, but humans wouldn't be anywhere near as interesting or advanced if it wasn't for the wonders of alcohol.
Paradoxically, of course.

Is caffeine really considered a lethal drug?

I think eating an ounce of it can kill you.

lol as if anybody's braindead enough to.

There are people.

And people have probably already done it.

That's what I meant, Vinch.
There literally are reports of caffeine-overdose related deaths.

Rare, but they exist.

Oh, I thought you meant there would be people who are willing to try it. >_>

Yeah, I see that now.
Note to self: don't use vague catch-alls.

Don't worry, I got it. And that's all that really matters this moment this second on this forum.

All that stuff messes with how your brain is working, and in that right you can classify them together. So alcohol counts as a drug.

Drugs need not necessarily effect the brain, but yeah.
It is.

Well, I mean, alcohol affects as much as anything else...

I'm pretty sure everything you put in your body that isn't food is considered a drug.

But its been misused to the point that saying the word drug means illegal drugs.

There are a lot of things in food that aren't food...

Yeah, theres tons of things that you can eat that aren't food, and they're not considered drugs. Drugs are just things that mess around with your body.

There are a lot of things in food that aren't food...

I think about a good percentage of dog food is ash..

Yeah, theres tons of things that you can eat that aren't food, and they're not considered drugs.

Do you mean things like cough medicine? Because those are considered drugs.

There are a lot of things in food that aren't food...

The food part is still food!

: preventerWIND  11 October 2008, 03:06:52

Yeah, theres tons of things that you can eat that aren't food, and they're not considered drugs.

Do you mean things like cough medicine? Because those are considered drugs.

Cough medicine is a drug because it messes around with your system. I'm talking things like.. uh... rocks or dirt or something, it aint food.

Food affects your brain too so this conversation is getting stupid. Of course that's how the thread started in the first place sooo...

: Vinchenz Rock  11 October 2008, 03:08:01

: preventerWIND  11 October 2008, 03:06:52

Yeah, theres tons of things that you can eat that aren't food, and they're not considered drugs.

Do you mean things like cough medicine? Because those are considered drugs.

Cough medicine is a drug because it messes around with your system. I'm talking things like.. uh... rocks or dirt or something, it aint food.

Preservatives. A better example..

My brother eats boogers.

Also, you're not supposed to eat gum. So. Gum is a drug.

Yeah.

Besides, all this talk of illegal substances and #####, isn't it against the rules?

Also, you're not supposed to eat gum. So. Gum is a drug.

You're not supposed to eat glue either, but I ate that in kindergarten. Am I a drug addict? No, I just liked eating glue.

When I was a baby I apparently ate the dirt from the potted plants.

Alcohol might be dangerous, but humans wouldn't be anywhere near as interesting or advanced if it wasn't for the wonders of alcohol.

I'm curious regarding this advancement.

When I was a baby I apparently ate the dirt from the potted plants.

Dirt had quite great taste back then.

I'm pretty sure everything you put in your body that isn't food is considered a drug.

So... how about sex?

Sex IS a drug, my friend. Best drug there ever was, is, and will be.

: Mikero  11 October 2008, 03:14:16

When I was a baby I apparently ate the dirt from the potted plants.

Dirt had quite great taste back then.

Apparently.