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« Reply #1515 on: 13 March 2009, 04:49:52 » |
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...you thought she was saying... buffalo? What? Weirdo. No, I'm talking about the English sentence that can be comprised entirely of the word(s) "buffalo." The sentence is as follows: "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo." It's grammatically correct. As in: Bison from Buffalo, New York, who are intimidated by other bison in their community also happen to intimidate other bison in their community. OR THE buffalo FROM Buffalo WHO ARE buffaloed BY buffalo FROM Buffalo ALSO buffalo THE buffalo FROM Buffalo. It even has a Wikipedia article! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffaloThis is another good one: "James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher." |
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Vinchenz Rock
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« Reply #1520 on: 13 March 2009, 05:21:44 » |
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Lunchebox
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« Reply #1539 on: 24 March 2009, 05:25:47 » |
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I saw Watchmen the day after it came out.
It... Was alright.
Yeah, it was close to the book, and I appreciate the effort (I'll probably appreciate the 5-hour director's cut even more), but I felt like Snyder kind of changed the wrong things.
In order to give Dan some more character development (he was by far the least developed main character in the book), they ended up making him much more heroic, and took away some of Laurie's development (the least developed character in the movie). Now, making Dan more heroic wasn't necessarily a bad thing, but taking away from Laurie's development was.
Now, a lot of people who've read the book, think Laure is a bitch, and maybe she is, but her sub-plot (I really shouldn't have to spoiler this, as the comic is over 20 years old but, I will) [spoiler]where she comes to the realization that the Comedian is her father[/spoiler] is a lot less powerful in the movie. Mainly because they skimmed it down, a lot, and used John as the deus ex machina, rather than allowing her to come to the realization herself.
And like I said, they made Dan a lot more heroic, which wasn't really bad, but it irked me, but only because they made Veidt seem more overtly evil. And you know what? Veidt was by far, the worst thing about the movie. I hate hate hate whoever they got to play him. He was too young, too skinny, and too European. Seriously, who thought he should be European and have a LISP? Again, it really irked me how skinny he was, as he's supposed to be at his physical peke, and he looked flat out ridiculous in the molded body suit.
I also feel like Snyder dropped the ball with John/Dr. Manhattan. I felt he like he was one of the best characters in the book, he was badly handle. They took away his costume being more and more revealing over time, and just had him in a thong from the get go. (In the book, he goes from a body suit, at the beginning of his life as a god-like being, to completely naked by the time the book begins, and it should be obvious what THAT represents). The voice was too weak, too emotional... And he's treated more as a plot device than a person. The CGI on him felt a bit weak as well.
Then there were little things that bugged me. They kept a lot of the powerful lines from the comic, but changed the dialogue around it, so the lines felt flat, and sometimes out of place. The whole Comedian is dead line was... Well, mostly the same, but felt emotionally long. Also, they made the pause incredibly long and awkward. "Well, what do you expect?" cue 20 second pause... and "The Comedian is dead." I think even the actor who played Dan was kind of wondering when his cue was coming up.
Rorschach was just about perfect. his voice sounds different than what I expected, but that's no big deal. My only complaint is that he was uglier out of make-up than in. Rorschach is described as being "remarkably ugly" out of his mask. Also, they cut out all of his back and forth with the psychiatrist, which I felt went a long way in developing Rorschach. Instead he just blurts out his past and reasoning immediately, and almost seems desperate to do so. And he was a lot angrier than he should have been, as he's usually pretty emotionless when he retells it. Also, they changed him from a fascist to a an ultra-conservative.
And the ending, I get why they changed it, the original is too convoluted, and, honestly, pretty ridiculous. But the new ending... It seems almost as ridiculous, and in fact, goes a long way in vilifying Veidt way more than he should have been. A lot of his new scenes did. Remember how I mentioned that while they kept the powerful lines, and changed the dialogue around them? Yeah, that really hurt the last scenes. Like when Veidt says "I feel like I'm swimming towards a... No, never mind[...]" it makes no sense, as they cut all the Black Freighter stuff (which was fine with me, as that was my least favorite part of the book).
And then there's Rorschach's line "Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon." still makes sense, but doesn't have the same impact, as Dan hadn't agreed to keep Veidt's secret yet. Then there's the whole "Nothing ends. Nothing ever ends." There was no reason why John couldn't have said it himself, and it only made Laurie seem less independent, though not as much as everything else that revolved around her in the movie.
Overall, Rorschach was the best part of the movie (It kind of follows the same in the book, but I was torn between him and Manhattan's parts in the book, the Mars scenes kind of suck in the movie) nd the worst part is Veidt.
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« Reply #1546 on: 25 March 2009, 21:54:26 » |
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