Mega Man X Dive

[Xero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ-p20Gddfk

For a mobile game it actually looks somewhat interesting.  It's made by Capcom of Taiwan.

Also *Skips towards Rico like a happy chao*

[LCrazy11]

i want a console port, they could probably make that work

[TheRedPriest]

It still has mobile design, so it wouldn't matter if it was on a console.

But it IS nice to see some X8 characters in a normal X style and not that horrid X8 style.

Also Rico a cute.

[Majikn]

I do wonder why so many Reploids need abdominal ventilation.

[Johncarllos]

I mean, she's hot. It's not like she needs boobs either, but apparently her boobs are so hot that she needs ventilation for them.

[Majikn]

Yeah, she looks cool. It's just she reminds me of Lana from Hyrule Warriors.

Some sort of blue haired no-name-but-given-a-random-name character.

Actually I just looked back at a picture of Lana and she has that same sideways ponytail. Is that just some common Japanese trope, or am I sensing a pattern where there isn't one?

[Mikero]

I came in ready to hate on new characters but that Rico is an excellent design.

Actually I just looked back at a picture of Lana and she has that same sideways ponytail. Is that just some common Japanese trope, or am I sensing a pattern where there isn't one?

Never thought about it but side-ways ponytail does seem to happen a lot in japanese character design, whereas in the west it went out with the 80's.

[TheRedPriest]

Were there any new characters apart from Rico though?

[Xero]

Aside from playable Marino, Alia, Pallete, and Vile, no.

Playable Iris when?

[Mikero]

It's legitimately insane that Iris hasn't been playable yet.

[Xero]

i want a console port, they could probably make that work

Not if it's a direct port.  It needs to have a graphics and control overhaul.

[SB]

Seeing as that one Asus phone will run the game at like 4k resolution and is designed to use the Not-Joy Cons configuration of controller from the getgo for this game per advertisements, a console port might not be out of the question. I mean we've got stuff nowadays like FFXV Mobile on eShop / XBLA / PSN, and it's just the phone version of FFXV ported over, while Nintendo and Microsoft have allowed phone titles in as freeware garbage on their systems.

I'm interested to see how the upcoming beta turns out this month and to see how the online works. I've noticed quite a bit has been recycled from Rockman Online's scrapped content, and seeing MM8 / MM11 footage in the background of one of the trailers makes me think we're going down a pretty big rabbit hole sooner than later with this one.

[TheRedPriest]

i want a console port, they could probably make that work

Not if it's a direct port.  It needs to have a graphics and control overhaul.

Control overhaul won't fix it, it's been designed as a mobile game with all the tropes and fail that mobile game design uses.  I don't recall if it's been revealed if it's free to play, but if it is, it's DoA.  Cool downs.  Microtransactions.  These games are built around being BARELY playable to get you to buy your way to more playing or making EVERYTHING have to be bought (weapons, costumes, colors, etc).  The game itself was ##### before it was even announced.  The ONLY good thing we'll get out of it is Rico, some nice 3D models, and maybe some remixes.

[SB]

Megaman Gacha with different character grades and weapons, though it has Delta's long missing remix for the password screen from MHX sitting in as the shop music. I'm trying to get my DS4 to work with the game at the moment, but otherwise Rez hit the hammer on the head about all the negativity involving the fallacies of F2P titles, such as energy to restrict access and the like.

Update: 2% chance to roll Ultimate Armor X, and my DS4 keeps aiming to the left, making it near unplayable.

[TheRedPriest]

No one should be surprised about this.  It's mobile #####.  It's LITERALLY what mobile games do and how they are.  No one should have expected an actual game.

[Xero]

##### it.  I'm just here for any new artwork or remixes.  Keisuke Mizuno is #####ing on point.

Posted on: 12 September 2019, 17:39:07

Speaking of remixes, it appears there is 1 new remix so far.  Jakob's Elevator from X8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvlqQMTYQVQ

Other than that there is MHX renditions of Storm Eagle, Flame Mammoth, Armored Armadillo, Original Storm Owl, Original X8 Stage Clear, and Remix X2 Stage Clear.

[TheRedPriest]

My understanding is they're reusing a lot of Maverick Hunter X stuff, and I was not a big fan of most of those remixes.

[Xero]

Yeah that's #####ing lazy on Capcom of Taiwan's part.

[TheRedPriest]

I mean, I guess we're lucky they didn't just reuse MHX and MM8 3D models.  But yeah, the only good thing to come out of this are some nice 3D models, some new key artwork, Rico, and maybe some new remixes.

[SB]

I read that it's just a tweaked MHX engine (hence it runs on potato phones), which explains a lot of the early chop work being focused on X1 elements and sounds. The only actual maverick in the CBT seems to be Chill Penguin, while the rest are just various mechaniloids that yet again mostly stem from X1, save for Maoh and the X7 Scorpion.

I'll give them props for making yet another Xero recolor after nearly 15 years, though.

[Xero]

New artwork of Cinny, 2nd armor X, Steel Massimo, and Black Zero just popped up.

And here it is!

Posted on: 13 September 2019, 14:13:13

More music uncovered as well.

Old:  Cyber Peacock, Slash Beast, Desert Base (Command Mission), Central Highway (MHX), Storm Eagle (MHX), Armored Armadillo (MHX), Flame Mammoth (MHX), Boss Intro (MHX), Boss (MHX), Boss (X4), Stage Clear (X8), Loading (X8)

Original:  Main Theme, Event Theme

Remixes:  Jakob (X8), Bubble Crab/Duff McWhalen (X2/X5), Password (Shop/X1), Stage Clear (X2), In The Wind (Floating Ruins/ZXA), Danger Attraction (Purprill The Mandroid/ZX), Wood Man >:] (MM2)

[TheRedPriest]

At this point it looks like we're getting everyone EXCEPT Iris...

Posted on: 13 September 2019, 19:23:50

The remix for MMX Password SUCKS.  It's so freaking slowed down and muted.  In other words I could have seen it in MHX.  It's just as disappointing as the other remixes in that game.

If anyone is interested in the music, here's a playlist on youtube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL36eVi0cSDZE8oaHiQvb-MJSDyDTtlTj

[Xero]

Jakob & Bubble Crab are based as #####.

Good to see some ZX love in there too and Wood Man's theme is great.

[TheRedPriest]

Some of those might be actual new remixes, unless they're reused from something I haven't seen before.  But most are actual music from MHX and X4.  Granted X4 has a bitch'n soundtrack, but it's a really odd choice of things to mix and match from.

[Xero]

Only new remixes are Bubble Crab, Jakob, Danger Attraction, Wood Man, and In The Wind as far as I know.  I checked ZX Tunes and the Gigamix and they didn't match.

Hopefully more will be added after the beta.  Shame about the password though.

[SB]

I did God's work by asking on the survey for beating the CBT that they consider adding Iris / Nana / Ciel and even Green Biker Dude to their roster. If Capcom can meme a Megaman gacha into existence, I at least want to have some fun with it at their expense. I also asked that the characters come with their default weapons, since Axl without his pistols or Alia without her buster is lame, and also asked that they have buster characters use those instead of lugging bazookas and stuff around GTA style with X and company.

CBT was pretty fun until the very end, where you're rewarded with the ability to skip stage replays if you have enough energy and 3 star them, making the experience suddenly shift to a modern mobile game into overgrinding for materials on the hamster wheel of powering up things. I'd give it an X7/10 at this point, where it only has up to go with better controller support and optimization alongside QoL updates.

[NovaMan XP]

It's fun, honestly, despite the free to play BS and such.

At first I was kinda annoyed at having to roll for characters, but you can apparently use the currency you get from rolling the same characters or weapons to buy the characters or weapons you don't have. So at least technically you can eventually get what you want for free.

And I agree with the default weapons thing for characters. It's kinda odd to see someone like Axl spawn in with his pistols and then they disappear and he pulls out another weapon.

Overall, I do find it a fun little time waster, but if it gets ridiculous and starts demanding I pay to win I'll just drop it like most other gacha games.

[TheRedPriest]

but if it gets ridiculous and starts demanding I pay to win I'll just drop it like most other gacha games.

...seriously?  It's not "if" it's "when".  That's LITERALLY the type of game it is.

[NovaMan XP]

Fair enough. I was being hopelessly optimistic.

[Xero]

More music uncovered

Remixes of Sigma X2 Form 1 & Sigma X4 Form 2.  Both sound pretty nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHF0ywoD6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqH7D11Usg

[TheRedPriest]

Interesting mixes.  Not too bad.

[Xero]

Datamine uncovered Iris skill icon.

DO #####ING WANT.

GIVE HER TO US CAPCOM!

GIVE HER TO US!!!!!1!!!shift+oneoneone

[SB]

I'mma need a source for that, since it's not over on Protodude's blog along with all the other datamined items.

[Xero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfe1aBdrtNo

at 10:00 mark.  May not mean she's playable but it would be #####ing dumb for her not to be since Capcom knows how popular she is.

[TheRedPriest]

That kind of game is made for just adding new models/characters and charging $5 each for them.  If they start adding new characters, Iris is surely towards the top of the list.

[Mikero]

Exactly, just falls under the umbrella of every generic mobile game. There's pretty much nothing they could add that would make me want to play this.

[TheRedPriest]

Oh, no, nothing would get me to play this piece of ##### mobile game.  Nothing about it appeals to me in a mobile game design.  The only thing it gives us is some fairly nice 3D models to rip.  And I'd love to have an official 3D render of Iris!

[Xero]

This isn't Mega Man X Dive related, but I just can't help but admire Keisuke Mizuno's style of the X series.  Here is art of X's 3rd armor by the guy.  If this guy draws every character & enemy in the X series, I'd buy a whole #####ing art book of his work.

[Mikero]

Some of the best MMX art in a while.

[TheRedPriest]

THIS is what X should look like. Not that X8 #####.  I just want new key art for Iris by this guy.  And a 3D model.

[Mikero]

It's crazy how you can really tell when an artist GETS it with Megaman. So much content out that MM-esque missed the mark.

[Xero]

New artwork my Mizuno, including a rendition of Classic Mega Man (who by the way is the next announced playable character for Mega Man X Dive)

Also where the ##### is Iris?

[TheRedPriest]

No Iris, no holiday.

Posted on: 19 December 2019, 01:54:16

So the beta is open now, is Iris playable or not?

[Xero]

Yes.

I will now download your game.

[TheRedPriest]

She's not been officially announced as playable, just added to the artwork with ALL THE OTHER PLAYABLE characters.  I thought given they've show her art and the new header art that has her was pretty much a solid confirmation and that when it launched she'd be there.  But she isn't.

I was never going to play this Free to Play mobile ##### anyway, I just wanted the art assets (key art, first official 3D model) and what not that could be reused in other actual good fan projects.  The 3D models are surprisingly good.  Way too good for this type of horse ##### gatcha free to play garbage.

[Xero]

Same boat Rez.  Also want to hear any new remixed music.  Its ##### that they are reusing music when they are also completely remixing music as well.

Posted on: 28 March 2020, 02:19:47

Looks like they have new art for special costumes.  Lab Scientist Zero, Kitty Cinnamon, and Motherly Alia

*Skips towards Alia like a happy chao*

[NovaMan XP]

Didn't take long for the fan service...

So, been playing it on and off just to see what else there was beyond the beta content... and the difficulty spikes up immediately and gets worse from then on. Add cheap stage design that just involves "spam the bouncy spikeball enemy from X1" every 5 seconds" so that you die a lot. But that's to be expected in a mobile free to play game.

...also touch screen controls are still garbage.

At least the art and 3D Models are nice. The new remixes are good too. The reused tracks feel really out of place though.

[TheRedPriest]

Seriously, why would anyone expect this to be a good game?  It's designed purely to get you to pay money for unlocks just like every other mobile f2p moba in existence.  You will never get solid balanced gameplay/level design out of that because it would defeat the purpose of the game.

The fact they've done so much on original art (and art that looks amazing and not horrid like a certain other Capcom gatcha), original 3D models, and original music remixes is almost baffling given the overall ##### actual game play.  I'll take the assets though.  I just hope we eventually get HQ versions of the stills.

[Winged Warrior]

Looks like this game took a real Megaman X Dive.

(get it, it's like Megaman X Over but instead--  Yeah, you get it.)

[TheRedPriest]

This is basically what the future of "gaming" will be.  All digital, all f2p/moba/gatcha garbage.