Best metroid game

[Vinchenz Rock]

Pfft. I have to agree on Edge on everything he says.

And when I say this, I KNOW I'm not the only one who agrees, but Prime 1 was pretty much a 3D Super Metroid with some key differences.

[TheRedPriest]

Prime 1 was pretty much a 3D Super Metroid

Uh... no?  Like Mikero said, it's a FPS with a Metroid skin.  It plays and feels nothing like Metroid.  Take the original Doom and slap a Metroid patch on it and you have Metroid Prime.  I've said it once and I'll say it again but any 3D Metroid would be modeled something like Mega Man Legends/Tomb Raider.  Nintendo proved they can do 3D platforming in Mario 64.  Imagine Samus exploring ruins and tunnels with the same solid 3D care.  You won't of course, because the FPS drones have bought enough of Prime to legitimize it as "A True 3D Metroid", thus signaling the death knoll for the series.

with some key differences.

Like not being Metroid in any way shape or form other than being called "Metroid"?  Other than that it's EXACTLY like Super.

[Vinchenz Rock]

I've already argued on this with you in the past. I'm not going to bother again. However, most Metroid fans I've spoken to who have started with Metroid on the NES or with Super Metroid are the ones that agree with me.

[TheRedPriest]

My experience shows that people don't like it or if they do they conceede it's pretty much a FPS and not a Metroid game.  Very few in the camp of "It's Metroid in 3D".

[Edgecrusher]

I'd like to think I'm as far from an FPS drone as they come (Prime being the only one I really play), but really, you can't honestly say Metroid Prime is NOTHING like a Metroid game outside of ascetics.

Every Metroid game I've played has involved landing on an alien planet that's crawling with all sorts of indigenous creatures that inhabited their respective 'zones', exploring derelict ruins in what limited areas I had access to, collecting power-ups, returning to previously explored areas with said power-ups to find that they open new areas of the labyrinthine temples and alien landscapes, a few boss battles, and then quickly hauling my ass out of there before the planet/base explodes.

Even the platforming is still there, it's just not as obvious due to the point of view.

I guess I don't see what's missing.

[Mikero]

I can't imagine anyone going directly from Super Metroid to Metroid Prime and saying it feels like the same universe. It might look Metroidy (I don't really think it does either) but that's not all of it.

[Edgecrusher]

That's just it. Outside of the change to in game physics and point of view, I thought it DID feel like the same game, for all aforementioned reasons.

[Vinchenz Rock]

I can't imagine anyone going directly from Super Metroid to Metroid Prime and saying it feels like the same universe. It might look Metroidy (I don't really think it does either) but that's not all of it.

That's only because that's how you feel about Metroid Prime.

I have played and beat Super Metroid before I played Prime (in fact, I didn't want to try Prime because I thought it was just another FPS). When I did give it a try it turned out to be a pretty good Metroid game. And that's how I feel about Metriod Prime.

[TheRedPriest]

That's just it. Outside of the change to in game physics and point of view, I thought it DID feel like the same game, for all aforementioned reasons.

Stop doing meth and accept Jesus as your savior and you'll be free.

[Mikero]

I'd played Metroid games before I played any Prime games, if that's what you're insinuating, Rocky. It's not like I went from Prime to other Metroid games. I'm sure if someone went backwards like that they'd think it's all fine and the same.

That's only because that's how you feel about Metroid Prime.

Well what else would I say? That's what an opinion is. I really can't fathom why you get the same feeling from both games and you can't fathom why I don't. That's the point of discussion.

[Vinchenz Rock]

I'd played Metroid games before I played any Prime games, if that's what you're insinuating, Rocky.

...

Well what else would I say? That's what an opinion is. I really can't fathom why you get the same feeling from both games and you can't fathom why I don't. That's the point of discussion.

I wasn't trying to insinuate anything... I was just stating how I felt about the series. At least you're not being elite about it, like this certain red priest I kn-

*Nibbles'd*

[TheRedPriest]

At least you're not being elite about it, like this certain red priest I kn-

You misspelled "right".

[Vinchenz Rock]

You obviously don't force opinions down other people's throats and claim them as facts.

[ASR]

Cheeky barstool.

[TheRedPriest]

You obviously don't force opinions down other people's throats and claim them as facts.

Or DO I?

[ASR]

Hint: yes.

[TheRedPriest]

Hint: Nibbles is hungry

[ASR]

So is Ethiopia. Quit whining.

[TheRedPriest]

Don't think Sano will keep Nibbles sated for long my boy...

[preventerWIND]

I know a great site with a horde of entertaining n00bs that would be great fun, and Nibbles will be bloated for a long time. We could call them over maybe?

[White Shadow]

Super Metroid was the best. Don't make me lock this.

Damn game-breaking next-generation punks.

[Captain Sanoguchi]

Don't think Sano will keep Nibbles sated for long my boy...

Why am I being singled out? ...Again?

[Edgecrusher]

And still, no one has given me a coupable lacking element.

All I ever get is "it just doesn't"

[TheRedPriest]

Damn game-breaking next-generation punks.

+ 10 Wily Funbux

Don't think Sano will keep Nibbles sated for long my boy...

Why am I being singled out? ...Again?

Because you taste good.

[Vinchenz Rock]

Super Metroid was the best. Don't make me lock this.

Lock it because someone has a different opinion?

[Captain Sanoguchi]

Sounds reasonable to me.

[ChaosVortex]

That's because you reek like a toilet.

And not the kind when the water is blue, I mean the public gas station kind.

[Majikn]

I don't think blue water is very clean either, or at least untainted.

[Kamon]

Yeah, but it usually smells good/better.

[Mikero]

Blue toilet water is clean, because it's the cleaner making it blue...

...

Because he's blue.

[Majikn]

I was more referring to it being called water. Water being "blue" is a common misconception and that blue liquid in the toilet isn't water.

[Mikero]

It's mostly water and some cleaner. The puck in the reservoir dissolves slowly into the water over time, which is why the water appears blue after many flushes.

[Majikn]

THE MORE YOU KNOW

That still makes it more of a solution than water. I guess it's not a big deal, though.

[Mikero]

Well yes, it's a solution. It's about as much water as kool-aid is, really. But of course the taste is another story.

[Teelio]

Prime is a good series. Enough said.

[TheRedPriest]

Optimus had his own series?  KICK ASS!

[Mikero]

Prime is a good series.

Why?

[Teelio]

Enough said.

[Voulnet]

Honey, that's not the correct answer to Mikero's question.

[Vinchenz Rock]

"It just isn't" isn't the corrent answer why Metroid Prime isn't a Metroid game.

[Mikero]

Neither is "It just is".

I have a hard time figuring out the main reason it feels different for me. It might've felt better to me in 3rd person but I can't imagine it. Seems it all comes down to feeling.

[ChaosVortex]

I detest FPS so that's probably true, although I'll give each one a fair try. There will be some games like Call of Duty that will actually have a spark of decency in them.

Others like Halo will just make me leave the room.

[Mikero]

I definitely gave Prime a fair shake. No dice.

[ChaosVortex]

Zelda: ALttP.
Super Metroid.

Both games I've played before, and I know are the best among their group.

And I'm now a proud owner of them both, thanks to the Virtual Console.

EDIT: I have no idea why Sonic1 is in the Puzzle Section, and why GnG is in the RPG section.

[TheRedPriest]

Zelda: ALttP.
Super Metroid.

Both games I've played before, and I know are the best among their group.

And I'm now a proud owner of them both, thanks to the Virtual Console.

I own them both thanks to the SNES

[ASR]

Congratulations, you old fart.

[ChaosVortex]

Oh my God, the GCN controller sucks. I can't stand playing this with a joystick.

I needs a classic controller. D:

[Mikero]

This is one of the biggest/first DUH moments of 2008.

[Vinchenz Rock]

I too have a SNES with both aLttP and SM.

And I have many gems for it too... though, I actually downloaded some for my VC. >_>;;

Neither is "It just is".

Well, technically, it is. Even if it doesn't feel like it to you or even to the majority of its gamers say it isn't Metroid, you can't do anything about it because Nintendo says its Metroid. Just like how no matter how much we hate it, BN4 is STILL a MMBN game.

But, even though I've said this in pretty much all of my posts in this topic, the Metroid Prime series are good Metroid games... And I KNOW I'm not the only one who agrees.

[Mikero]

A lot of people agree that marrying cousins is fine. That Alanis Morissette understands the definition of irony. That cucumbers taste worse pickled.

They're all wrong too. ;-)

But the issue isn't wether or not the game is called Metroid. It's wether it plays like Metroid. Just because Nintendo says "This is a Metroid game", that doesn't mean the discussion is just done.