Would YOU pay 15 MILLION for a Legends 3?

[Aresian]

...the poster child for what's wrong with Mega Man Matrix today.

*kills you*

*claps*

BN is just a shoddy excuse for an action-RPG, and doesn't even manage to pull it off well.
Aresian is just a shoddy excuse for a member, and doesn't even manage to pull it off well.

*watches Rez put you in your place*

Foo, I'm the best member at MMM! Matrix is dedicated to ME!

Battle Network WAS a fine series for the first 3 games.  The last 3 are as #####ty as any MMZ or X7.  And ALL the side games are complete #####.  Battle Chip Challange and Network Transmission.  Both utter rubbish.

Even still, BN isn't what's wrong.  It, like X, is a fine example of a good series that was brutaly raped into something that was complete #####.

QFT, though I like EXE5 (DS) and EXE 6 was alright. Just my personal opinion.

[Raven]

Some of the BN Games are okay. I liked BN5 the best, and I really can't complain. BN saved me from complete boredom while I was in the hospital, so I thank Capcom for that.

[riakage]

I want Mega Man 9 a HELL of a lot more than Legends 3, but I pray they never make it.  Why?

All I want is 8 robot masters, some solid arcade platforming stages with distinct flavor (flavor =/= forced stage gameplay themes) and a good simple "Wily attacks again" to tie it all together.  But we won't get that.  Every stage will be some poorly designed "theme" (speeder bike, fixed scroll ceiling crush, giant robot chase you, etc, etc) which kills the fast paced platforming and some horrendous "ZOMG WILY MAKES ZERO SOMEDAY MEGAMAN WILL BE AN ELF" bad fan fiction plot to tie it into the other abortions Capcom has made post MMZ/ZX.

And so too will the case be with Legends 3.  The first two games are solid gold.  But they're dead.  let them rest in peace.  Legends 3 will be just as bad as ZX, Starforce and MMZ.  Inafune and Capcom have lost the magic and are too bogged down in a putrid continuity to ever make the game Legends 3 deserves to be.

I always considered "Megaman and Bass" as a Megaman 9.

[Mikero]

However, it is not.

[Panda]

It's sometimes called Megaman 8.5

[Mikero]

It's also sometimes called Megaman 9.

It's neither.

[Panda]

It's sometimes called Rockman and Forte.

I clicked post and then wondered why it redirected me to the Legends section of the forum.

[Mikero]

Rockman and Forte, MegaMan and Bass, those are it's only names. Just because someone calls it something else doesn't mean that's it's name. I can't call this site "Babalu" and it magically becomes that.

[TheRedPriest]

Rockman & Forte is no more Mega Man 9 than Battle and Chase is.  It's a side game.

[Panda]

Babalu... Do not type that into google images...

[Talon Draukner]

I hope someone pays that money. Personally I loved the legends series. It falls in second place to the X series while everything else is meh to me. If they do make a new legends game we all know it will be on that kiddy little Wii system and us big boy hardcore gammers that have the other two systems will never get to play it. The graphics will have to improve dramatically and the controlls I'm guessing will be tweaked. I we were ever able to play this game, I personally think that we would just be wishing for another.

[Aych]

If they do make a new legends game we all know it will be on that kiddy little Wii system and us big boy hardcore gammers that have the other two systems will never get to play it.

If playing Legends means trading in my boxers for pull-ups, I'll pass. THX.

[Talon Draukner]

LAMO

Well you know what they say, you come into the world in diapers and you go out the same way.

Might aswell revert to your childhood.

[TheRedPriest]

If they do make a new legends game we all know it will be on that kiddy little Wii system and us big boy hardcore gammers that have the other two systems will never get to play it.

Right, you can stop #####ing talking right now.  I'm not sure when "hardcore gamer" turned into "LOL GAMES HAVE TO RUN ON $1200 GRAPHICS CARDS", but little #####s like you are the poison that are killing my hobby.

The graphics will have to improve dramatically

You know what?  Pound for pound Legends 1 and 2's graphics have aged pretty well.  Would you like to know why?  It's because they're done in a fun and colorful style, and were not attempted to look "real".  I'm all about better graphics, but keep some #####ing perspective.  The Wii's graphics are fine.  I started playing games when your character was a #####ing DOT, and you know what?  The jump in graphical quality has really become pretty unimpressive compared to moving from 8bit to 16 bit or from 2D to 3D.  You want to know why so many games blow ass now?  It's because Xbox kiddies and other complete #####tards only care about how AWESOME the graphics are.  Gameplay has been thrown to the curb.  But hey, as long as online multiplayer lets you shoot people in the face what does it matter, right?  Which brings us to your second point...

and the controlls I'm guessing will be tweaked.

Oh yes, PLEASE!  Change a control scheme that pretty much worked perfectly.  About the only thing Legends had a problem with was the camera.  And mind you I never thought THAT was too bad either.  The platform elements in Legends were some of the best 3D gameplay around outside of Mario 64.  But what do you care how it plays as long as it's running at 400 fps in HD with bloom? 

The Wii was made for a game like Legends.  That doesn't mean you can't still do a traditional controler setup for it though.  And porting a game FROM the Wii TO PS3 or 360?  Ought to be pretty #####ing easy graphics wise.  But you know what?  The audiance for those two consoles don't care about solid games.  Just SHOOTERS, MADDEN, ONLINE and graphics.  So yeah, "Big Boy" Hardcore Gammers like you probably won't get to play it.

Go eat a ####.

[Abominator]

I love how "hardcore" and "casual" in no way describe the correct groups of gamers.

[ChaosVortex]

Yeah, the camera control was kinda whack. It didn't have that "freedom" kind of feel like Mario 64 does where your movements feel loose and without restrictions. Mega Man only moved forward, right, left, and back while the camera faces the same direction.

[Aych]

That's what the shoulder buttons are for, whether or not you think they're effective. Legends is better off without Trigger handling like Mario anyway...

[TheRedPriest]

I thought the shoulder buttons to rotate worked quite well myself.  That's why I didn't have a real issue with the camera.

[TriggerUNIT]

If they do make a new legends game we all know it will be on that kiddy little Wii system and us big boy hardcore gammers that have the other two systems will never get to play it.

I'd like an explanation on how playing games that are full of excessive amounts of blood and gore, with a high amount of FPSs makes you a hardcore gamer when playing games with equal quality in challenge and fun without too much of the frustration makes you not. I really do. These people should look up what a hardcore gamer is. It has nothing to do with games being full of blood or having an overly tense storyline, isn't it about playing and beating as many as possible?

[NovaMan XP]

Blood makes everything hardcore. Incase you were wondering, that was sarcasm.

[Mikero]

What Rez said was entirely correct and I don't disagree on any of his points at all. And fps rates are the dumbest things I ever hear about in games. Television and film moves at 24fps. That should really be fast enough since those capture real life movement just fine. Maybe I'm missing how frames per second affects gaming entirely, I don't know, but if you think about how I'm seeing this it sounds ridiculous.

And not playing any game on a certain system because you think that system is "kiddy", no matter wrong or right you may be, is entirely the opposite of being a hardcore gamer. Or even being a gamer. A gamer doesn't play games based on whether or not they appear on their favourite system. Play games you want to play, play games because they have ACTUAL good reasons to be played, or shut up.

[orclev]

What Rez said.  <3

Yeah, the camera control was kinda whack. It didn't have that "freedom" kind of feel like Mario 64 does where your movements feel loose and without restrictions. Mega Man only moved forward, right, left, and back while the camera faces the same direction.

I personally can't stand the camera in Mario 64...  I like the Legends camera just fine; I only really need to see forward when I've got MegaMan running some place, and if I need to look left or right, I can.  I hate it when the camera moves all over the friggin' place in a game; it makes my brain hurt.

[ChaosVortex]

I thought the shoulder buttons to rotate worked quite well myself.  That's why I didn't have a real issue with the camera.

I thought the shoulder controls could use more work.

[Mikero]

I didn't mind the camera that much, but it was my only real gameplay issue. It felt clunky. I would have much preferred the Mario 64 style. It's freeing.

[ChaosVortex]

I couldn't think of that word, but that best describes it. Clunky.

[Mournson]

I loved the camera, it avoided the use of that second thumb stick, which was a bloody pain in the arse.

[TheOnly]

Get me 15 million people to give me one doller each and I will.