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Edgecrusher
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« Reply #11 on: 21 July 2008, 18:16:38 » |
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Contrary to popular belief, parents have half a brain.
Which is exactly why, when I was your age, if my parents didn't like the music I was listening to, I would calmly state my argument. Focus on the content of the songs being nothing but words, and something that you're mature enough to understand is wrong, so on and so forth. Then again, I'm not sure how old you are, so I'm making assumptions regarding your maturity level.
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No more pencils, No more books I built a city out' one brick, it had a Mayor and a Crook I made the Crook stab the Mayor, then slay himself in the guilt I stole the brick back and migrated east, now let's build.
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Lunchebox
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« Reply #14 on: 21 July 2008, 19:34:40 » |
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Contrary to popular belief, parents have half a brain.
Which is exactly why, when I was your age, if my parents didn't like the music I was listening to, I would calmly state my argument. Focus on the content of the songs being nothing but words, and something that you're mature enough to understand is wrong, so on and so forth.
Then again, I'm not sure how old you are, so I'm making assumptions regarding your maturity level.
You know what they say when you assume. Personally, I still think you should consider the fake suicide threat thing, KT (KT... Kay Tee... Katie). It will be the best way to show your parents you're mature enough to listen to whatever garbage you listen to.
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Chron
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« Reply #38 on: 22 July 2008, 14:23:39 » |
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Children should not disobey their parents without a decent reason. There is a reason wisdom comes with age (this is not to say all parents are wiser than children, but I doubt the opposite is true in kingtrickster's case).
Parental controls and history viewing are a little extreme, and invade the privacy that the parents themselves would have had when they were children. It is not possible to know what your children are doing all the time, and it should not be. They should be allowed to make their own decisions and mistakes after a certain age. 15 is definitely above that.
On the other hand, the world is filled with stupid teenagers who have too much freedom.
Parental controls are a fine thing, I think, if you really want to be strict (and keep your files safe), but it needs to be backed up by a strict parent; you cannot let machines do what humans should be doing themselves. On the other hand, viewing browser history is invasive (although this can be circumvented in some instances by the child), and is not a practice I condone.
I suspect that our topic starter's parents are divorced, and this person goes back and forth between each house. Obviously he is a problem child, for numerous reasons we see laying about the thread. I wouldn't have been so eager to help him.
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AlexThePenguin
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« Reply #42 on: 22 July 2008, 21:12:47 » |
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He's mentioned a couple times that the blocked sites are music- or art-related.
KT:
I have a few suggestions.
When your parents complain about your music, ask them to give you a song or artist in the style of music they'd like to see you interested in, and listen to it. This only works, however, if you actually listen respectfully to the music they suggest, and form an opinion based on the music they've offered, rather than you feeling like they're forcing you to not listen to yours.
Yes, you're generally old enough to be considered to "know better" than to do something because you heard it in a song, but if your parents object so much to it, then there must be something driving their opinion, too. I heartily support sitting down with each parent, and having an honest, calm heart-to-heart.
Oftentimes, parents become stricter if they feel their kids are becoming more distant, because they realize more and more that you're going to be old enough to leave them completely soon, and whether it's driven by them losing control (which is a lot less likely than some would have us think), or losing you, it's something parents have to deal with, and it's quite frankly stressful for them.
Also, you are 15. You're at an age which is considered very impressionable, and you're at a point where a lot of freedoms of choice are opening up to you. Chances are, your parents are concerned about what is influencing you, and what you are choosing to be exposed to.
Sorry if this ended up like a lecture, it wasn't intended to be. I grew up with a very close relationship with my mother, and she and I talked about things like this a lot, especially when I was trying to break away a bit and become my own adult.
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That's nice, dear.
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AlexThePenguin
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« Reply #46 on: 23 July 2008, 15:54:48 » |
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You'd be amazed, XJ.
Then again, up here, only the local gang members and homeless youth tend to listen to any (c)rap. And I do mean that C, wholeheartedly. People do listen to good rap, but they usually listen to a lot of other stuff, too.
We're predominantly "scene" (read: Emo and/or alternapop) and true indy here. We spawned Death Cab for Cutie (who are directly linked to the formation of the Postal Service), and have ties to (or direct links to) several other bands.
We also have a live music bar, but that's mostly for the 21-pluses who don't hang out at the all-hours café.
Damn. I just realized that I missed listening to the Red Elvises from across the street (of said live music bar) on the 18th. ;_;
The predominant thing usually involves dancable stuff.
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That's nice, dear.
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Winged Warrior
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« Reply #48 on: 23 July 2008, 20:30:27 » |
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I say #####ing deal with it. You'll turn eighteen one of these days, and move the ##### out of their controlling household. I mean you can #####ing deal with it. Even if you can't...
Deal with it.
Once you are an adult you can do what you want. With or without the boundaries of the law. You are 15, that leaves you with three years. That gives you time to get your ##### together. If you are, as you say, 'not a problem child', then you know that you have no choice but to deal with it and learn from it, knowing that one day you may not going to approve of your child's choice in music, and only causing a fight will make things worse.
Also, if you want to ##### with your parents with extreme consequences, follow lunche's advice while listening to boy bands or pop music. start quoting songs, wear makeup, and scream randomly for the voices to shut up.
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